Mob Ties
ifelldownthestairs on July 9, 2010
HARK'S EDIT!
The Drunk Duck Awards 2010 are here!
Please vote for The Webcomic Review Comic (on the web) for best community project!
If all our review fans take part we have a great shot at a nomination!
Just click here to cast your votes!
Now back to your regularly scheduled review comments from Kev…
As you might guess, we really hated Mob Ties. Once I finished putting this page together I actually felt a certain joy that was indebted to the fact that I will never have to read Mob Ties, ever again, and Hark fully agreed with the sentiment. I know it's a harsh review perhaps our harshest yet, but it really is the nicest we could muster.
As always, hit up our forum and let us know what you think - do you like Mob Ties, do you hate it? And why?
See you'ze next week.
elektro at 10:00AM, July 11, 2010
To the anonymous commenter who mentioned Lewis Lovhaug: obviously, you know nothing about Linkara. He would hate a comic like Mob Ties for its blatant fanservice of a 15 year old. I have a feeling he'd agree with this review.
taltamir at 9:41AM, July 11, 2010
this is the comments section, for comments, on the page posted here... But fine, if you insist we shall discuss it in the forums instead of here.
harkovast at 9:40AM, July 11, 2010
Taltamir well if you wont post your thoughts in the correct place and you are just ignoring the issues I have raised with the comic (even though I specifically told you when these points occur) then I don't think there is any point continuing to argue about it. You aren't reading the responses you are getting, so why bother? You go back to staring at Mika's buttocks and telling yourself "This is okay, I mean its not REALLY fan service. 15 isn't all THAT young! After all, she COULD have been nearly 18, which would have made it at least a little less sick. We aren't perverts...right?"
taltamir at 9:33AM, July 11, 2010
PS. amusingly enough... originally she was just turning 18, then the author figured out he goofed on the marriageable age in japan (18 for men, 16 for women), and adjusted it (went back and changed earlier comics to lower her age) so at the comics beginning she is "about to turn 16" instead of "just about to turn 18" to be more accurate. but even if that wasn't the case, you are just fishing for controversy where none exists. mob ties rarely has fan service, and when it does, its of the busty adult women (30+ year olds). Also, here is the one scene you specifically single out, going as far as calling it a panty shot fanservice: http://www.drunkduck.com/Mob_Ties/index.php?p=230802 which is clearly NOT fanservice, and definitely not "kiddy porn".
DrLuck at 9:29AM, July 11, 2010
Hey taltamir, [url]http://www.drunkduck.com/community/view_topic.php?tid=53932&cid=4835&comic_id=38096[/url] here's an easier place to discuss things.
harkovast at 9:19AM, July 11, 2010
Taltamir well you obviously aren't much of a mob ties fan because you dont seem to have read many pages. What about the scene where they are all in the hot tub doing loads of fanservice poses with steam, thongs and other ridiculous things covering their Nipples? What about a resent scene where she has become part cat for some reason and is crawling around on her hands and knees and we get to see her ass in the background? What about the filler page (lord knows, mob ties loves filler) where she is in a robe with one side open, exposing her breast and her nipple is covered by a razor blade? Please read the comic you are trying to defend! And as you have already been told, if you want an in depth discussion of Mob Ties, post your thoughts on the forum. That is the appropriate place to address this sort of thing.
taltamir at 9:15AM, July 11, 2010
1. there is absolutely no kiddy porn in mob ties. 2. mod ties does not do the fanservice you described. As for the "Aim Here" thing... she got a mouth ring, husband says "take it out, makes you look like a slut, might as well get a tat that says aim here". Wife gets a tat that says that to make it clear he can't order her around... And I just reread the entire thing from page 1 and I have not seen her boobs. Also, you should note that they haven't had sex either.
RPGgrenade at 9:08AM, July 11, 2010
I think you guys were just really upset, though. I mean, 15 bad comics straight must feel like they're making fun of you
chocann at 9:07AM, July 11, 2010
"Kiddie porn?"have you really had a look at what is posted on DD!!! sorry I'm not commenting to flame but i would like to make a point clear the gym uniform that you label as 'panties and a tight shirt' is actually what female Japanese students wear during gym. just wanted to make that point, but you are titled to your opinion and i will respect that.
Limzee at 8:45AM, July 11, 2010
I've considered picking Mob Ties up a few times because it's so popular, but after reading this I don't think so.
DrLuck at 8:42AM, July 11, 2010
I didn't know there were so many fans of filler-- I mean Mob Ties here. There's filler EVERY week. That's inexcusable.
harkovast at 8:06AM, July 11, 2010
jninja, a little creepy and somewhat inappropriate? I would hate to see your idea of a completely inappropriate depiction of a child! Call me a prude, by I have something of a zero tolerance policy on kiddie porn. I know, I know, I must seem uptight and uncool to all you hip kids, but that's just me. I should point out, if any of you have a comic on the list that is full of sexualised minors, please just ask to have it taken off, save yourself the trouble of being told you are sick and wrong.
jninjashadow at 7:55AM, July 11, 2010
Though I disagree with your assessment, dear reviewers, I support your right to your opinion. Though yes, some of the Mika scenes get somewhat inappropriate and on occasion a little creepy, I found no problems with the overall flow, and I did seem improvement in the art. I personally enjoy Mob Ties, and will continue to read it.
Wordweaver_three at 7:08AM, July 11, 2010
I figured lampooning Mob Ties would garner you some hate. Lord help you if you ever did a review of Cru.
Mr Kaos at 6:57AM, July 11, 2010
Well one can't please everyone. i keep to read mob ties nomatter what.:B
anonymous at 6:28AM, July 11, 2010
Oh, here we go. The angry obsessive fans riding to the author's defense banner yet again... saw this coming. Comic fans are the worst.
anonymous at 5:15AM, July 11, 2010
actually I was just getting that out of the way, I like Mob Ties because of the art style and the story telling I have seen a lot worse webcomics out there then this one
harkovast at 4:56AM, July 11, 2010
And again, as if to prove me right, a Mob Ties fan insults us rather then defend the kiddie fan service. Proof that you cant defend the indefensible.
anonymous at 4:48AM, July 11, 2010
in the word of Linkara or Lewis Lovhaug "this comic sucks" and I don't mean mob ties
harkovast at 4:33AM, July 11, 2010
I notice that the people defending Mob Ties seem to be over looking the fact that the girl appearing in the fan service, getting her tits out, and getting tattoo's that say "AIM HERE" above her arse is 15 YEARS OLD! The defenders appear to simply over look this fact, rather then try to defend it, since such content is indefensible. If you want to discuss the issues raised here in more detail, please go over to the forum.
stinger9 at 3:35AM, July 11, 2010
Taltamir, I'm not going to continue arguing this with you, as you don't seem to be getting it. Just go to the forum and argue your point there, as Kev said further down.
taltamir at 3:29AM, July 11, 2010
also, I did not "attack other readers". Merely compared it to other similar claims and let people draw their own conclusions. I did not call the person names, I did not assign adjectives or pass judgment on them... [quote]I also love how people are ignoring the fact that Author Ninja put herself up for this review, and had every chance to drop out.[/quote] This has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to anything. Asking for your work to be reviewed does not justify a review that uses strawmen arguments instead of legitimate points. mob ties is far from perfect, but rather then having a pros and cons, it just goes on and on about made up cons. [quote]Ironically, the aurguments people have put forward against this review have less ground than the review itself.[/quote] doesn't seem that way to me. can you actually give a concrete example of "arguments in the defense of mob ties" that "have less ground than the review itself"?
Genejoke at 3:25AM, July 11, 2010
I think the review was a little harsh on the art, I don't like the style but it isn't terrible based on the first ten pages. This is of course based on the first ten pages which is all I could stand to read.
taltamir at 3:22AM, July 11, 2010
1. There is every reason to call someone out on saying "I refuse to read it but know it is XYZ". 2. I just read back some other reviews and I noticed each one of them was negative, maybe there are some positive reviews, but the 6 I read thus far were all negative. So it seems to me that this review site is just abour ragging about other comics.
ifelldownthestairs at 3:18AM, July 11, 2010
Anyone who disagrees with the review and wishes to present an argument for Mob Ties (bringing up how ugly our comics are to defend your position is optional), I strongly encourage to comment in the forum, where we can discuss it in more detail.