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Fantasy & Armor
WingNut at 10:31AM, Dec. 4, 2007
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Unless you're talking about Celts, they fought in the nud.

Yup, just like me. I fight in woad. ;D

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Ozoneocean at 10:46AM, Dec. 4, 2007
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You'll get hit by a car!
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WingNut at 11:24AM, Dec. 4, 2007
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You'll get hit by a car!

Ba-Dum-Bum-Kssssh!

That was good Oz, very nice. But, back on topic, I think my favorite kind of real armor that seems like something out of fantasy was the silk armor worn by the Persian horse archers and light infantry. Super light weight, sewn in with metal strips, it moved like a second skin. Also, the way that the fabric was woven, it actually would stop arrows. Something to do with the elasticity of the silk, arrows would just bore into it, and barely penetrate.

I think thats just plain awesome. That and it looked damn cool too. What better way to fight than in a snazzy silk shirt? ;D

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Ozoneocean at 11:46AM, Dec. 4, 2007
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What better way? Why, shiny, pointy gothic full plate armour, that's what!
That form distorting, slim-line high-fashion steel-wear made quite a statement, as well as being practical. With a stylish sallet style helmet you have yourself an admirable suit of armour for all occasions. ;)
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Pixie at 12:48PM, Dec. 4, 2007
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What better way? Why, shiny, pointy gothic full plate armour, that's what!
That form distorting, slim-line high-fashion steel-wear made quite a statement, as well as being practical. With a stylish sallet style helmet you have yourself an admirable suit of armour for all occasions. ;)

You would! Assuming you could stand up, with the weight of it! XD
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Ozoneocean at 10:39PM, Dec. 4, 2007
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I bet you I could ;)
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lastcall at 3:14AM, Dec. 5, 2007
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And don't forget the doggie….



And our feathered friends need armor, too…

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Pixie at 3:26AM, Dec. 5, 2007
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I bet you I could ;)

I take that bet! Now find some armour and wear it and STAND UP! I dares thee, good sir knight! XD
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DAJB at 4:43AM, Dec. 5, 2007
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And don't forget the doggie….

See … I have no problem with half-naked female warriors. In fact, we should probably have more of them. I'd sign a petition to replace our regular police with them.

But those dogs … it's just silly. They're completely unprotected from the waist down!
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WingNut at 7:57AM, Dec. 5, 2007
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But those dogs … it's just silly. They're completely unprotected from the waist down!
;)

FOOL! DO YOU DARE TO DOUBT THE BATTLE PUG??!

-W
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RentAThug at 2:49PM, Dec. 5, 2007
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That Battle Pug will totally mess some folks up. Now I'm tempted to find armour for my pug.


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DAJB at 1:19AM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Oh God. I'm now wondering whether you can get fantasy armour for other pets.

Like hamsters. Or goldfish.
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Ozoneocean at 2:36AM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Well I've made some for horses… I've thought about making it for my cats too but steel work like that is hard… and a bit of a waste of time for a cat since they'd hate wearing it. :(
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ozoneocean
I bet you I could ;)
I take that bet! Now find some armour and wear it and STAND UP! I dares thee, good sir knight! XD
Ha! I've worn bits… Seen kids wearing adult suits too. Real armour is distributed weight so it's not that bad. heavy chainmail is murder though, much heavier than plate.

Ha! Maybe I'll look for a suit to wear…
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TheMidge28 at 8:41AM, Dec. 6, 2007
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ah but if its made of mithril…
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Pixie at 12:42PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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…then it's imaginary? :P You're right Midge. Imaginary armour doesn't weigh anything, it'd be easy to stand up in. *sigh*
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Ozoneocean at 1:07PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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:P Actually, weight's not really the issue at all. In anything but chainmail, the thing is always flexibility.

From stuff I've worn, designed and made, that's what I've gathered. That aspect of designing armour is fascinating! Flexibility is key.
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TheMidge28 at 1:17PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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…then it's imaginary? :P You're right Midge. Imaginary armour doesn't weigh anything, it'd be easy to stand up in. *sigh*

Aye! The Thread is called Fantasy and Armor!
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Pixie at 1:24PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Sadly, your logic is unassailable. :P
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DAJB at 1:34PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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But … won't imaginary armour only be effective against imaginary weapons?

I mean … I know our guys in Iraq have only got imaginary armour but, from what I read, it's not proving very effective against the real thing!
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AQua_ng at 2:00PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Then it's because they're not believing hard enough!

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Ozoneocean at 2:18PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Oi, it's not all about non-protective skimpy stuff, what about overprotective impractical stuff:



That powerarmour just isn't flexible enough to be useful.
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TheMidge28 at 4:35PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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Oi, it's not all about non-protective skimpy stuff, what about overprotective impractical stuff:



That powerarmour just isn't flexible enough to be useful.

For all your talk of armor and mechs, I still imagine you prancing around a glen in a hooded cape and armed with a magical crossbow as the dirty little naughty ranger you know you are!
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shaneronzio at 4:36PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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yeah, but…the real armour bonus comes from the 2 Jawas and the Gonk Droid.
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Ozoneocean at 5:10PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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For all your talk of armor and mechs, I still imagine you prancing around a glen in a hooded cape and armed with a magical crossbow as the dirty little naughty ranger you know you are!
Well the thigh high brown leather boots are pretty stylish ^^
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Inkmonkey at 5:37PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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yeah, but…the real armour bonus comes from the 2 Jawas and the Gonk Droid.

Who the Hell makes a “Gonk Droid” outfit? Is there some kinda “Gonk Droid” fanbase out there? Of course, considering how the toy line finds it necessary to make a toy out of every incidental character who appears for at least 2 seconds, I guess the crazy fanboy market can't be expected to hold itself to any higher of standards…
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Ozoneocean at 5:52PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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It's the easiest outfit though! :)
Well, maybe there are easier ones, but two plastic tubs atop one another, one with the bottom cut out, and a pair of small air-conditioning tubes and you've got it. You don't even need to paint it really.
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RentAThug at 6:38PM, Dec. 6, 2007
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ozoneocean
Oi, it's not all about non-protective skimpy stuff, what about overprotective impractical stuff:



That powerarmour just isn't flexible enough to be useful.

There was some half-assed explanation in the fluff (that armour is from Warhammer 40,000, for those who may not be familiar with that game) as to how exactly the suit could move without just falling over. I much preferred the Imperial Guard's attitude of “Look at what those aliens are packing, if we get shot we're pretty much screwed no matter what we've got on”. Although it might have just been that nobody wanted the budgetary nightmare of equipping several billion guardsmen with anything more complicated than a thick coat.


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Ozoneocean at 2:02AM, Dec. 7, 2007
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Heh. The main trouble with that armour, servo powered or not, is that the proportions of the oversised bits make flexibility impossible at the joints. lol!
That pic isn't a good example, but with all of it even a a person's own body joints inside the thing wouldn't line up with the suit's joints, so you couldn't actually wear it… I've seen a suit or two made as costume props that have been adapted, but they have to distort the suits to make them work…
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Pixie at 4:34AM, Dec. 7, 2007
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Still looks pretty impressive though, ne? :3 There are actually people in them!
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Ozoneocean at 6:07AM, Dec. 7, 2007
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It can :)

This pin-head in his Terminator armour wouldn't work… Even with servos and waldo type internal prosthetics.


This normal space marine armour has been adapted for a prop costume (Space Crusade Ad), the material is a lot thinner, the whole thing is slimmed down and the joints are very wide:



This prop costume looks like it might have been made for the game Final Conflict, for the cut scenes? Anyway, you can see how the grieves are extremely truncated and all aspects ofthe arm movement would be limited…



Looks very cool though :)

—I am SUCH an armour dork!
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