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the world of action
that kid yellow at 11:47AM, July 7, 2008
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in the world of action wat action most interest you, your average super heros(x-men,superman, and hulk etc) or stuff like samurais/ninja/martial arts(street fighter, samurai champloo hell even naruto. I find both types very good but if i could i would go samurai action.


I mean dont get me wrong i dont mind a little hulk smash but i rather watch samurai's duke it out…what about you?
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that kid yellow at 12:51PM, July 7, 2008
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but why anti
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Skullbie at 1:04PM, July 7, 2008
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Normal average people who are hereos with resources available to the average person, not some made up superstrenth/superspeed/supergay whatever. :)

That's why the iron man movie was one of my favorites, his only ‘powers’ are being really rich. That's something a normal person is capable of having, not some chosen one ‘yur bettar than other ppl taek dis magic powa’ crap.




But samurais are also cool. Using the ‘special skill’ to behead 300 trained, armed, deadly ninja's. Yeh.
 
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seventy2 at 3:51PM, July 7, 2008
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Normal average people who are hereos with resources available to the average person, not some made up superstrenth/superspeed/supergay whatever. :)

That's why the iron man movie was one of my favorites, his only ‘powers’ are being really rich. That's something a normal person is capable of having, not some chosen one ‘yur bettar than other ppl taek dis magic powa’ crap.




But samurais are also cool. Using the ‘special skill’ to behead 300 trained, armed, deadly ninja's. Yeh.

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mlai at 4:11PM, July 7, 2008
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Mystical kung fu action set in the modern world. If guns are included, just as good.

I simply find super action with some kung fu thrown in to be just a bit more sophisticated. For example Naruto fights actually seem to involve strategy, planning, techniques, etc. (On the occasions when it's a good episode/arc).

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Inkmonkey at 5:59PM, July 7, 2008
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I'm also of the mind that I like some level of reality in my action. I think it's much more impressive to see Batman outfight 8 armed robbers than it is seeing Superman beat a radioactive dinosaur over the head with a submarine… actually, that example was a bit too awesome. Anyway, with the fantastic, I like to see it implemented in realistic ways. I was able to thoroughly enjoy the third Spider-Man film for its action scenes just because they did a pretty decent job of keeping some level of gravity, thermodynamics, whatever sciencey crap it is that makes it look like the character actually had weight while performing feats of amazing Spiderey.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is the more believable something is, the more awesome it is. Largely because it gives me a better grounds for how awesome it is. I'm not big on wire-fu for that reason, because it takes things far away from my point of reference. It can be done well (and really, its subtley implemented in most good action flicks these days), but over-reliance on one gimmick would really kill anything, if you think about it.
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Custard Trout at 6:13PM, July 7, 2008
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Like one of those old gangster movies, but with steam punk.
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lba at 8:15PM, July 7, 2008
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You know that one quick scene in Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark where the guy in black starts waving swords around in a flashy manner only to have Indy yank out his pistol and plug him with one shot?

Yeah. That kind of action. The kind that's more or less as close as you're going to get to reality in such a situation.
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usedbooks at 10:39PM, July 7, 2008
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I like a hero that doesn't possess any great physical skill – and doesn't acquire any (I seriously hate that “make-him-into-a-hero” crap), but instead manages to get by on his own personality/wits/luck. It's cool when none of those traits are particularly keen either, just a guy in a bad situation that he manages to get out of. I like it when average people have to rely on each other in a pinch too.

I like escapes and rescues and outwitting each other sorts of things (rather than brawls or combat). I also love a good con, like any kind of major twist, disguise, super-contrived plots on both sides (protagonist and antagonist).
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AQua_ng at 11:42PM, July 7, 2008
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Giant robots. They push the willing suspension of disbelief as far as they could. And then break it. Which is usually good as I get to see mechs destroying each other with four hundred gazillion drills and missiles.

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ozoneocean at 12:24AM, July 8, 2008
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My favourite is… Umm… Conan the barbarian type action worlds. Yeah :)
Or the Destroyer… or Red Sonja…

Groovy. Furry underwear, chainmail bikinis and massive swords.
Heroic, epic stuff.
Also, ancient Greek heroic sort of stuff. No, not The 300, Xeena or any of that tosh, I mean the stuff from the vases and from the stories.

And lastly; the world of the Norse gods, from the stories (not the mawkish Wagner version either). Larger than life, heroic characters, drinking and battling the world and reality into shape.
 
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bravo1102 at 8:55AM, July 8, 2008
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My favourite is… Umm… Conan the barbarian type action worlds. Yeah :)
Or the Destroyer… or Red Sonja…

Groovy. Furry underwear, chainmail bikinis and massive swords.
Heroic, epic stuff.
Also, ancient Greek heroic sort of stuff. No, not The 300, Xeena or any of that tosh, I mean the stuff from the vases and from the stories.

And lastly; the world of the Norse gods, from the stories (not the mawkish Wagner version either). Larger than life, heroic characters, drinking and battling the world and reality into shape.

Hmmm sounds like a story some buy named Bravo is writing. :)

Anyway for me it's ordinary people in extraordinary situations. Occasionally they may have “powers” (magic maybe) but are still ordinary people.
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JustNoPoint at 12:42PM, July 8, 2008
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Hard to say for me. I tend to enjoy all sorts of action. From the super outlandish to the tactical down to earth ones.

I like things blowing up. I'm a sucker for almost any kind of kung fu flicks. Really love me some well choreographed fight scenes.

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Normal average people who are hereos with resources available to the average person, not some made up superstrenth/superspeed/supergay whatever. :)

That's why the iron man movie was one of my favorites, his only ‘powers’ are being really rich. That's something a normal person is capable of having, not some chosen one ‘yur bettar than other ppl taek dis magic powa’ crap.

LOL you must be the one that unfaved my comic recently =D That's totally my schtick right now haha
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imshard at 1:43PM, July 8, 2008
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post-apocalyptic. mutants and radiation optional. no superpowers, just regular people fighting the odds to survive in the ruins of civilization.
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kyupol at 2:17PM, July 8, 2008
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what about girl fights? :)
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Aussie_kid at 9:38PM, July 9, 2008
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what about girl fights? :)

Yeah, girls blowing stuff up and shooting each other so that the bullets each strike a seem and then their clothes fall apart

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mlai at 6:45AM, July 10, 2008
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I don't like girlfights. Because girls tend not to know how to fight and it all looks fake (in live action… in anime anything goes). You have very few female actors (mostly Asian) who actually know what they're doing, or at least look like they know.

Modern wire-fu and sfx help the situation a lot, but that also takes away a level of reality. For example, actions scenes in Casino Royale wouldn't be so cool if it was a woman.

Mainstream American comics are the worst. Because even in comics, those women don't look like they know a thing about fighting. A life-and-death situation looks like a swimsuit modeling shoot. That to me is just pathetic.

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that kid yellow at 7:50AM, July 10, 2008
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girl fights could be great if you know how to do it the right way
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Eirikr at 7:56AM, July 10, 2008
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Anti villains.
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bravo1102 at 8:34AM, July 10, 2008
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what about girl fights? :)

Yeah, girls blowing stuff up and shooting each other so that the bullets each strike a seem and then their clothes fall apart

The ultimate in testosterone driven action

1970's exploitation and scream-queen movie type stories. Barbara Steele, Babes in Bondage, Zombie Hookers, Attack of the Robofemoids…

Explosions, automatic weapons, screaming, nudity, sex, monsters, busty babes in peril, aliens, zombies, horror… oh yeah.
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Evil_Snuffkin at 8:34AM, July 10, 2008
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I love it when things blow up… but not too often and not completely unrealistic (like a motor bike crashing into a wall, releasing a huge fire ball and taking out half a building, stuff like that just makes me laugh). I also like guns especially big ones that look a little to heavy to pick up and swords that are really shiny or look completely evil. And when people are fighting I like to see them pushed to the limit. They're so tired they can barely stand but they're still trying to break the other guy's jaw. …Yeah, I like a lot of things to do with action. Except bog standard super heros *cough* Superman *cough* and things that think they're so cool they just set themselves up to fail *cough* The Matrix *cough*.
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kyupol at 1:38PM, July 10, 2008
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I like watching military gun fights (or any gunfight for that matter. It doesnt have to be gun-fu like Matrix or Equilibrium). I like that opening scene in Saving Private Ryan… and those old “gangster” Filipino movies from the 80s and 90s.

Though gun fights don't seem to be good if the story sucks. It only becomes good if the story is good. If there is alot of drama, political, and religious issues in the background. It also starts to suck if its just total bullshit.

You know, when you're watching a movie and you go. “Yeah right…” Like when Rambo killed a whole battalion of Burmese troops mostly by himself.

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Though its cliche, I still find it entertaining when I see those anime ninja fights. Like in Yuyu Hakusho, DBZ, Naruto, Bleach, etc. I know its gonna be all about believing in your power so you can kick the ass of a seemingly powerful badguy who is at least 5 times more powerful than the hero.

Or when the hero suddenly triples, quadruples, or exponentially grows his/her power because of supposedly unlocking something. Like gaining a more solid understanding of the nature of reality or something.


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seventy2 at 2:28PM, July 10, 2008
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i dont like most modern movies that portray the air force…maybe because i know how it works, and how wrong holly wood is, and the fact that they think they're super right.

in transformers, me and my buddy were laughing nearly non-stop for the first 20 or so minutes….(until the spec ops guys went back to the states)…

i guess it's like a proffesional athlete watching one of those movies about being a proffesional athlete….
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kyupol at 10:43PM, July 10, 2008
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hollywood doest care about accuracy. As long as its entertaining and makes money.

I could just imagine hollywood showing a fight scene between two highly skilled combatants that ends in 10 seconds. Or a gunfight with soldiers mostly camping and trying to shoot at extremely long distances like those Iraq war footage thats up on youtube.

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bravo1102 at 12:56PM, July 11, 2008
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I love a movie that makes an effort to get it right. Look at Saving Private Ryan They bothered to get it right at the beginning and the end (the middle part is better forgotten) Band of Brothers, Blackhawk Down you can count them on your fingers. But you know what movie gets it right? Stripes I know because I lived it. ;)

Movies that get it wrong can be outrageously funny, like Rambo III. He's driving and shooting the guns on a tank he wouldn't be able to fit in. (so he's two places at once? You can't get from the driver's hole to the gunner position in a T-72, in a T-55 it's really, really hard like playing limbo where the bar is 6" above the ground)
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seventy2 at 9:25PM, July 11, 2008
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I love a movie that makes an effort to get it right. Look at Saving Private Ryan They bothered to get it right at the beginning and the end (the middle part is better forgotten) Band of Brothers, Blackhawk Down you can count them on your fingers. But you know what movie gets it right? Stripes I know because I lived it. ;)



bill murray, that funny son of a gun….

i think you can count the movies that get it right, on one hand (documentaries excluded, as they're taped as it happens).
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ozoneocean at 4:38AM, July 12, 2008
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Movies that get it wrong can be outrageously funny, like Rambo III. He's driving and shooting the guns on a tank he wouldn't be able to fit in
That is funny ^_^
You don't have to be an expert to laugh at that one.

And shooting down a big fat French helicopter that was meant to be a Hind, with an arrow… Ah well, Stalone had good hair then :)
 
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Frostflowers at 7:17AM, July 12, 2008
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I have a totally dorky weakness for the melodramatic Chinese costume drama fights - wildly improbable action, swords, gorgeous clothing and beautiful cinematography. I once watched Hero three times on the same day. >.> There's something about the almost dance-like choreography that gets me - the fluid motion and everything.

Outside of the ridiculously over-the-top world of Chinese costume dramas, I prefer action that is realistic. I want the gritty stuff - the people whose hands hurt after they've punched someone in the face; guns that actually have a limited number of bullets and wounds that are actually wounds and therefore limit the characters' movement.



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