Velveeta “cheese” is considered by the FDA as not a cheese,it is classified as pasteurized processed cheese product, what this mean it might contain cheese bits and pieces mixed with something like vegetable oil and food dye before going through a process to create this loaf of colon hate.

I bring this up as an idea that many movies at theaters are basically going through the same kind of process, taking bits and pieces of leftover ups, scripts and such before applying some of that Hollywood oil and squeezing out a loaf out, not caring if someone is buying it or not as the government is subsidizing most of the industry anyway. And while this sounds like a typical rant of they don't make good movies anymore, that's not the case.

There's a few good movies at the theater, and honestly I am a VHS baby so I prefer to stay home.

Rather I like to point out how there seems to be so few genres and styles at the theater now.

It used to be you had Strange Brew, Kramer vs Kramer, The hand that rocks the cradle and Nightmare on Elm Street be at the same Cinema (okay not at the time because of different time periods but that's beside the point) but now it feels like there's only the Oscar bait film, the high budget romcoms and a “tent pole” movie for some shared universe. And while occasionally an off film slips through I don't think you will something like Cannonball Run or Bats in mainstream theaters.

I wish I had a better point to get to but I don't, so I will get to the meat of the subject besides lacking in diverse movie genres and styles I noticed the theaters are doing things like adding pickleball courts, bars, restaurant dining. Basically slowly theaters are not for movie goers but now is basically casual opera.

Honestly I really don't fully care as I said I grew up in the tape era, but figured I get the conversation started because it's is interesting that people spend so much to go to the theater not to watch a movie but go a few rounds at Gateball.

So they're all going the way of MTV?
- i.e. ignoring what their brand was about and just using their assets to do something else, crapping all over their patrons in the process.

Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, it's like they've forgotten what they were all about. The whole experience is becoming less about movies and more about everything else.

I think a movie like cannonball run would fly well in theaters today because people want a big movie to draw them into the seats.

smaller movies might not make a dent, the business wants to make money and they know the event movie is a money maker.

speaking personally I never went to the theater to see a movie that was not some kind of event movie even if it was a smaller event movie like clash of the titans or breaking and breaking 2 electric boogaloo.

the one time I went to the movies for what I consider a non event movie was just to have something to do on the weekend. I went to see mr. mom with my cousin

but yeah a lot of genres went away like westerns, musicals, dirty comedies, pirate movies

Major slam on Velveeta outta nowhere! It's really good for potatoes au gratin and taco dip, and it's a PITA to find a reasonable and inexpensive amount of sodium citrate to get a velvety cheese sauce out of a regular block of cheddar. And I refuse to use effing Amazon to acquire it!!

I don't let the government tell me what's cheese and what cheesen't. ;)

Hrmmm I don't suppose I follow with the vanishing of Looney Tunes— “The Day The Earth Blew Up” is literally out right now, and everyone should see it because it's the first worthy entry to the franchise we've had in years, fluidly animated, and hilarious. Best of all? There's original jokes instead of dusting off something lifted directly from a short we've seen a million times. Modern Looney Tunes has been a stream of disappointment for me because of that inclination. And because Ketchup Entertainment got the rights to put that movie out, we're finally getting Coyote Vs Acme, which that bastage CEO threw in the trash for a tax write-off, hope he continues to get boo'd everywhere he goes, frecking worthless cultural vandal that he is.

But unless people are bringing their A game and passion, I'd rather see things like Looney Tunes quietly slip out of mainstream relevance than people try to prop up the corpses for generations that have an abundance of other media to enjoy just because people who enjoyed these things in their childhood don't want to let go. I agree these are classics but we can't dwell in the past forever.

Theaters are introducing all those other things to make money because Hollywood/Disney has been absolutely gouging them for years. They've taken bigger and bigger cuts from ticket sales to the point that people can barely afford to see a movie with their family anymore. I prefer to see my movies at the drive in and every year they have a video on how buying concessions is really what keeps them going, because the movie industry not only takes the biggest slice of pie, but also compelled them to update all their equipment at their own expense, to new digital projectors as they phased out reels.

I'm very tired of the uninspired live action remakes of animated classics. The trend needs to die.

I speculate wildly here, but I think the diminishing attention spans of the populace may be also having a bad affect on these things.

And movies made for streaming, I think there is still just this mentality of “prestige” being something you get in theater, but those plebeians sitting at home deserve little more than slop. You could feel that seething resentment when Covid hit hard and people were on lockdown, they haaaaated that their Theater Movies did well on streaming. Some of these are also because they're depending on the *theater experience* to fill in for some of the shortcomings. You can't be blown tf away by spectacle if you're watching a crappy Marvel movie on your phone. You might start paying attention to other things, like the bad writing!

“Streaming” is merely this generation's “direct to video”. Garbage that knows it's garbage as opposed to garbage with delusions of grandeur. Before that it was the quickly made movie to go on the bottom half of the double feature.

Nothing dies in Hollywood. Wait twenty years and recycle it for the next generation. TV series are still telling the same stories they did when it was the 55 minute franchise movie or the serial in twelve chapters. Except the people who remember that stuff are mostly dead or have really bad memories so everything is deja vu but you can't quite place it.

Part of the problem is that mainstream entertainment won't take any chances on anything new, fresh, or original. Believe me, there's plenty of us out there who such ideas who would love an opportunity to turn these ideas into realities - I've got dozens of TV show and movies ideas myself. The studios and the powers that be don't want to take risks because it's no longer about quality or originality, it's all about profit and revenue: franchises, sequels, remakes, rehashes, nostalgia, etc. make money, new stuff doesn't; if they take a chance on something new and it doesn't catch on right away, they'll pull the plug and not even give a chance, because they want those profits immediately. Just imagine if the networks tried to do shows like M*A*S*H or SEINFELD today: both ended up becoming among the biggest smash hits in TV history . . . but both failed to find an audience in their first seasons for one reason or another, and were on the verge of cancelation; all it took was for one person within the network who had faith in these shows that they were given a chance to prove themselves, and they did. If this happened in this day and age, they would've been canceled after three or four episodes. Granted, that also happened back in the day too with some shows that failed to find an audience and ended up getting canceled after a single season or may two, but it's far more common in this day and age. As a matter of fact, here's a piece of interesting trivia (or maybe only Bravo may find it interesting): the same year 20th Century Fox adapted the movie M*A*S*H into a TV sitcom, they also adapted the movie THE KING AND I into a TV sitcom, even going so far as getting Yule Brynner to reprise his role as the King of Siam for the show. Fox was so sure that THE KING AND I sitcom would be a smash hit that would go on for at least five seasons, they filmed it in the largest sound stage on their studio lot; on the flip side, Fox was so sure M*A*S*H would tank and not even last a season, they relegated it to the smallest stage on their lot. Guess which one failed and nobody even remembers? Ironically, both shows had the same producer.

But I digress. The mainstream has no respect for originality anymore, that's part of the reason why we have the garbage we have now.

My mother being a musical fan watched Anna and the King throughout its troubled run. Despite a lot of talent it just didn't work. You even had Keye Luke in a recurring role (while also doing Kung Fu ) It did feature Rosalind Chao in one of her first roles and she would play Klinger's wife in M*A*S*H and then O'Brien's wife in ST: DS9 .

In this internet era of abusive fandom and even worse instant criticism, nothing will get a chance unless there's been so much invested that they just can't back out. So you have a train wreck like Rings of Power. And then there's the danger of success and the creators don't want to be stuck and you have a rushed conclusion like Game of Thrones. It was supposed to be a bang and all we got was the whimper.

Sorry if any redux comes along it always makes me go back and look at the original. The only reimaging to work was Battlestar Galactica and I couldn't get past the third episode because it was so dull. Supposedly it hit its stride later and they kept it going so it could peak and then fizzle.

Any number of my comics are easily marketable. They're trash. Trash sells. I almost got Attack of the Robofemoids started, but I wanted to streamline the script and work out some inevitable compromises before hand. I could probably source some start up money but it'd be too much like work.

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My mother being a musical fan watched Anna and the King throughout its troubled run. Despite a lot of talent it just didn't work. You even had Keye Luke in a recurring role (while also doing Kung Fu ) It did feature Rosalind Chao in one of her first roles and she would play Klinger's wife in M*A*S*H and then O'Brien's wife in ST: DS9 .

Weird!
My mum always loved the movie and so I watched it many times when I was little. I loved Yul Brinner. SO sad he died young.

But knowing now about the real King and the real governess their relationship WASN'T fit for comedy at all. Very serious and sad with some brief happy moments. Nothing romantic, sexual, or lovely-dovey there in any way either.
It'd work well as a serious story about cross-cultural relations and the problems of thinking you're a “white saviour” and more intelligent and superior because you come from the powerful British Empire, when the person you're talking to is older, much better educated, more worldly, the leader of a powerful nation that owes nothing to the British Empire and isn't afraid of it… and he's also sexist and set in his ways.

Though there was some small comedy fodder in the fish out of water situation she was in and adapting to that, and while she thought she was a white saviour and more inteligent, trying to get him to free slaves and introduce greater equality based on the limited stuff she saw in the palace, he was ALREADY working hard to change that stuff on a national level and resented her superior ranting about it, and especially the way she was unable to see the changes and reforms he was already making…

Fascinating dynamic.

@Ozoneocean: The Chow Yun Fat/ Jodie Foster movie had some of that in it. Don't even try to watch the Rex Harrison Anna and the King of Siam. I mean, Rex Harrison plays the King! It's embarrassing. It's like watching the 1930s The Good Earth where a German woman plays a Chinese peasant and win an Oscar. Very scary.

If you actually coined the term “visual Velveeta” that's achievement worthy of trophy.