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Quackcast 675 - Lurv

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, Feb. 20, 2024

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It was Valentine's Day last week so let's talk about lurv. Love makes the world go round, love solves all problems, love heals all, love is eternal, love is all you need, all you need is love… Well those are all the typical and utterly meaningless pop culture platitudes but they sound good.

Why meaningless? Because “love” isn't defined, it's a very vague term that can mean a lot, far too vague to be used the way it is in those phrases. Love can involve lust, friendship, patriotism, affection, yearning, passion, honour, protectiveness, stuffiness, obsession, and so much more. And none of those things are the same, they can all be wildly different and yet still be “love”.

So that's sort of what we chat about - different kinds of love and how people use it in pop culture, especially webcomics. Whether us part of our genetically coded instinctual imperative to breed and safely transfer our genetic template to another generation or something more complex and nebulous, we try and address quite a lot of it ๐Ÿ˜š
How do you approach love in your work?

This week Gunwallace has given us a theme inspired by Opposites Attract - Frenetic and full of a buzzing diffuse energy that suffuses everything like a universal static charge. This music drank waaaay too many espressos and red bulls so now itโ€™s bouncing off the walls, tasting colour, and seeing in 5 dimensions.

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Featured comic:
VacMan -
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Lite bites review - -not in yet but will be

Featured music:
Opposites Attract - - by Pita Gene, rated T.

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JohnCelestri at 5:11AM, Feb. 21, 2024

@Ozoneocean - Love not being reciprocated by itself as the major story point is not strong enough to carry a story. It'll fizzle out. But it can be used as a character's motivation. (As you can tell, I'm very much into forceful/dramatic story elements.) ;-)

Ozoneocean at 7:45PM, Feb. 20, 2024

@UnderTheBlackHat - You do have a lot of detailed love action in Kawaii Kissu!

Ozoneocean at 7:44PM, Feb. 20, 2024

@JohnCelestri - Love doesn't need an opposite to add tension, just the possibility that love isn't reciprocated, is enough for that. But I like your take on it!

Ozoneocean at 7:41PM, Feb. 20, 2024

@Lothar- not just mammals and not just reproduction, but community, family all that sort of thing: it's not just about reproduction but the continuation of your genetic pattern, so you're compelled to look after the young and well as support other members of your species. It's all related. It's a functional thing thats thought of as magical but it's universal and that makes it a great theme to write about.

lothar at 7:15AM, Feb. 20, 2024

Love is a chemical process that compels mammals to reproduce. Rise above. Focus on comics.

JohnCelestri at 7:06AM, Feb. 20, 2024

Regarding however you define "love", using it as a major story element in webcomics necessitates adding the element of some sort of "betrayal" of that "love" in order to create tension and conflict. This tension is the major conflict that sets into motion my "Bloodwing Fire Fist Angel" comic. Mychal's entire story arc begins with being betrayed, and forces this angel onto a path of trying to survive as a semi-mortal.

UnderTheBlackHat at 6:40AM, Feb. 20, 2024

We use love as a primary driver for some of our characters. In Kawaii Kissu, the primary motivation for Aiko and Emery and everything that happens around them is their love for each other. It comes in as very passionate and intense and pretty much stays that way. While not everyone seems to recognize 'Honeymoon Mode' as a real thing, these two are fully engaged in it. It's also a motivator for Madoka and Hiro. Aiko and Madoka have a 'sisterly' love, they even make reference to it at points. Hiro 'loves' Madoka and would do virtually anything for her and does. But his love may be more 'lustful' as opposed to the 'pure' love one is supposed to have for mankind. Our comic has a number of other types of 'love' scattered throughout. Some beautiful, some unattractive, but they are all love of some sort. It's a wonderful motivator and can be both an uplifting sensation or a crippling weight on the way people act in both real life and fiction. But it's all 'Love'.

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