I update tally then prepare for a day of marking ;__;

Odysseuss55
ozoneocean

but that wont kill them?

A tommy gun ought to do it.
Or…
If all else fails use fire.

That is, if we do say Odysseus is our man.

the2ndredbaron
but that wont kill them?

The Tarot Card, “The Hanging Man” is upside down.

Mutation
That is, if we do say Odysseus is our man.

I agree. Last time we rushed in, we killed our detective…or almost killed our vigilante until people changed their votes.

blackkitty
”What the hell? You’re not my mother! Why don’t you take that finger and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine!”

And so the young stranger did. Apparently the sun doesn’t shine inside Leaderofstars’ skull.

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (hic) LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS…I waff the hobo hereby pledge to bring my good friend's clone's killer to justice via the medium of dead squirrels and hooch (I still have a keg left over when he tried to make me change the town's name).

Niccea

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That is, if we do say Odysseus is our man.

I agree. Last time we rushed in, we killed our detective…or almost killed our vigilante until people changed their votes.

In that case we had suspicion and really flimsy links to clues. :(

:) But in THIS case we have SOLID links to the clues:

Odysseus5 Killed Korosu and then Skulbie.

The clues are about firing arrows, stringing bows, famous battles and no necks.

For almost all clues they point squarely at her nick. ALL the clues are there in the Greek legend of Odysseus! (except for the neck)
Arrows- That's how he proved he was who he was to his wife when he came back from his journey. By stringing is powerful bow and firing it.
Famous Battles- The Trojan war. He was a hero.

And for the neck clue, all you need to do is look at her art and see what you notice, or rather what you DON'T:
None of them have any necks. That's her style and it's very characteristic.
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The bottom line is that if we don't stop her now, she WILL kill again and we can't afford to have the mafia keep doing that. Odysseus has played very well and very convincingly, but now it's time for us Townies to draw mafia blood.

And I'm still upset about my bodyguard Skull :_;

Not to get too technical on you, but they have really short necks. You just have to put your nose to the screen to see. I guess the neck was so vague that we would think of vampires or something.

But I agree that the Odyssey thing is pretty condemning.

I was thinking about the pigs and men thing from earlier. I remember that part of the Odyssey now. I though it pointed to Harkovast's anthro characters. I went with him last time because of his accusations that lead to an innocent death.

Niccea
was thinking about the pigs and men thing from earlier. I remember that part of the Odyssey now.

Yes! the sorceress (or demigoddess) Circe turned all of Odysseus's men into pigs!

If we let Odysseus5 continue BK would have gone through the whole story! :)
We'd have has Cyclops, the Sirens, the giant Islands smashing unwary ships, deals with Aphrodite, offences against Aries, and all the little bits and pieces ^_^

Man, we were thick, weren't we Niccea?

Is that the royal “we”, the group “we”, or the talking to a child “we”?

However, if you don't mind, I'm still going to hold of on accusing. I want to look at all the clues, people, profiles, and what not. Want to make sure there are no red herrings. Don't want a repeat if you get what I mean.

Edit: I'm picking up some things here and there, but I'm too lazy to compile and scrub through everything. I'm behind on homework and comic work right now. I so glad I discovered the forums! Did you know I was here a year before I even made one post? And that was for the Christmas thingy. Then I say skool's advertisement of the game and I was rather disappointed from the last one. I'm making friends and getting better at coloring!

hey guys do you think early 20s is young?.

waff
hey guys do you think early 20s is young?.

For what?

I would say no

the2ndredbaron
I would say no

I would say it depends.

Hey guys, sorry but I'm probably not going to have time to do a clues search today… I might have time tomorrow but if so it won't be until just a few hours before voting ends, so not very useful. I've been really busy with work today preparing for an all-day work thing tomorrow, it's already 7 here and I still have several hours of work and have to eat dinner. The next day cycle should be on the weekend though so I should have plenty of time to do one next time round. It doesn't seem like we really need one so much today anyway…?

I can make the clue page if that is needed. Or someone else can make it. It doesn't matter to me that much. I have some ideas…and I would like to see what everyone else has to say. I have time now and I am free for most of the day. Sorry to keep you away from work, skool.

I would like to say this before we go into this. Like before, this can be flawed because it is based on opinion and I could have missed something. I'm also not suspecting any of these people…yet…
Godfather:
Strawberry Jam -
Waler Stallion – This clue confuses me. I think it is suspicious that BK put down a specific breed of horse. Has anyone ever heard of it or would like to look it up?
Hamburgers – The favorite of Hatpire. Gasp Its Jake has Hatpire for an avatar. The neck reference can be plotted here too, but I don’t think BK will cross clues.
“Kinky night actions” - I don’t want to go there.
Mafia Members:
Chainsaw -
Neck – It can point to Ody’s characters’ insignificant necks, but he is not the only one to have neckless characters or avatars…I think. I know that Vakanai’s main character in Flip doesn’t have one.
“Young stranger” – Is our member younger than usual?
$19.95 – A common price?
We can look at the entire clues as the Odyssey, thereby condemning Odysseus55, or we can look at them thusly assuming that it is a red herring.
Pigs and men – Harkovast features a style of human looking animals.
“arrow that shoots through the eye of the suit” – Bit random, but it is a complaint in Hark’s interview on the thread. He hated armor with weaknesses.
“wife” – Could be that our mafia member is married.
“neck is the best” – Related to vampires. Could go back to Gasp.
Annnnnnd! There is something or other about a storm tossed sea – could lead back to Sea_Cow or ozoneocean.
That is all I got right now. I will update as I find stuff. I got class to get to right now.

blackkitty and niccea
Waler Stallion

…hmm…I looked this up in my free encyclopedia (wikipedia) (it would also double as a bludgening weapon or step if I could lift it) and apparently it is a breed of autralian riding horse famed for its endurance and as a war horse. here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waler_horse. and doesn't hark's wife refuse to do any colouring until thier children are in bed?.

Niccea
I would like to say this before we go into this. Like before, this can be flawed because it is based on opinion and I could have missed something. I'm also not suspecting any of these people…yet…
Godfather:
Strawberry Jam -
Waler Stallion – This clue confuses me. I think it is suspicious that BK put down a specific breed of horse. Has anyone ever heard of it or would like to look it up?
Hamburgers – The favorite of Hatpire. Gasp Its Jake has Hatpire for an avatar. The neck reference can be plotted here too, but I don’t think BK will cross clues.
“Kinky night actions” - I don’t want to go there.
Mafia Members:
Chainsaw -
Neck – It can point to Ody’s characters’ insignificant necks, but he is not the only one to have neckless characters or avatars…I think. I know that Vakanai’s main character in Flip doesn’t have one.
“Young stranger” – Is our member younger than usual?
$19.95 – A common price?
We can look at the entire clues as the Odyssey, thereby condemning Odysseus55, or we can look at them thusly assuming that it is a red herring.
Pigs and men – Harkovast features a style of human looking animals.
“arrow that shoots through the eye of the suit” – Bit random, but it is a complaint in Hark’s interview on the thread. He hated armor with weaknesses.
“wife” – Could be that our mafia member is married.
“neck is the best” – Related to vampires. Could go back to Gasp.
Annnnnnd! There is something or other about a storm tossed sea – could lead back to Sea_Cow or ozoneocean.
That is all I got right now. I will update as I find stuff. I got class to get to right now.

I think your really stretching with Hark there. Besides the clues were posted before the interview so how would BK know about that comment? And the clue talks about pigs and men, if it was animals and men then you might be on to something. Personally I think the pig is a red herring, along with communism. We should focus on the necks.

Hmn, Someone related to war could be the godfather then?
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That's a good portion of us.

Niccea
Wife…

…Annnnnnd! There is something or other about a storm tossed sea

LOL!

Those like the pigs are CLEAR references to Odysseus

The see is where his entire journey took place and the whole “stringing the bow and shooting the arrow” thing happened because of his wife. ^___^

The neck thing is wholly specific to Odd, sorry. No one else here has it as clearly in their art. Not even close! :)
The only possible chance is Gasp its Jake's avitar but thats a HAT-pire, not a vampire.

All clues point to Odd for this one sorry. No stretching or any fuzziness. ;)
We have a winner I'm afraid.

I wish it had been this easy the last time or that we'd have been bright enough to spot it then… But I suppose it takes two instances of the clues to be sure. :(

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In Odd's case I think the mafia members might possibly fight the hardest to get her off, so beware mafia guys, we'll be watching what you say. Whoever you are!

Hey!Ozone has some BIG clues.
BTW Niccea! Check my new avatar! (I have an excuse for being a penguin)

Okay, since no one is going to believe harkovast, I'm just going to reveal the truth myself. Yes, I was the one that gave harkovast the evidence against skoolmunkee. Not only do I know who killed leaderofstars, but I know who killed korusu. This is how it all went down:

Leaderofstars, believed harkovast's false claim against korosu, and as a vigilante, killed him the first night. The mafia didn't kill anyone the first night on purpose. All they needed to do was to wait for the vigilante to strike first and then watch as the townies solve the clues just to kill one of their own. However, the townies instead lynched SpANG, and although skoolmunkee said she would undoubtedly pardon SpANG if voted, she didn't. Seeing how the vigilante leaderofstars was still alive by night two, skoolmunkee had no choice but to kill him then and there.

I implore all of you to look at the clues. Skoolmunkee is definitely part of the mafia and since you elected her as pardoner, she has much leeway in terms of turning the game in favor of the mafia. I'll also point out that every time someone is killed, she says she is too busy to solve the clues.

This is my guarantee, if you lynch skoolmunkee and she is not a mafiosa, then you lynch me the next day. However, am fairly certain that skoolmunkee is part of the mafia, so I'll probably be killed the next night anyways.

The choice is yours. Don't let me die in vain.

Niccea reference to pigs and men does not mean Harkovast (since pigs have yet to appear in my comic) it means Odysuess!
In the legend they go to an island where the men are turned to pigs.
The arrow clue I will admit could mean me (medieval etc) but again it works best for Odysuess.
Our target is clear me thinks!

humorman
Leaderofstars, believed harkovast's false claim against korosu, and as a vigilante, killed him the first night…

That sounds semi-plausable humorman.
But the trouble is that I as myor know all Leaderofstars's actions and I know he never made any hits.

-Besides, during the hit on Korosu AND Skulbie the clues show it was the SAME killer. Leaderofstars was dead before he could make a killing, so he wasn't involved in either murder.

And what are the clues that tell you Skoolmunkee killed Leaderofstars? You haven't made any connection to the clues at all. I would like to hear it if you have any.

harkovast
Niccea reference to pigs and men does not mean Harkovast (since pigs have yet to appear in my comic) it means Odysuess!
In the legend they go to an island where the men are turned to pigs.
The arrow clue I will admit could mean me (medieval etc) but again it works best for Odysuess.
Our target is clear me thinks!

You'd better not forget that many times in the past, the target has been you.

I feel as if the net is tightening on the bad guys.

Well I have recovered sufficiently that I can post.

We had agreed Ozone that we would wait and let the townies figure out that I was the killer. The clues were way obvious. But with your GodFather pardon, I could live another day to strike again in your service.

I did NOT expect you to throw me under the bus.

Granted I am not privy to all your plans, but we could have made much hay out of just waiting to watch them cast accusations.

I look forward to you maintaining your word and pardon me. I will give my life tomorrow in your service, but not today.

Odysseus.


PS giving me the horses head was a stroke of genius.

I'm back, what's going on?

humorman
Okay, since no one is going to believe harkovast

I'm curious to know why you wanted Harkovast to explain your clues. If it was to avoid suspicion on yourself, that means you're just willing to put someone else under suspicion. That's not very nice. “Feeding” clues to other people seems pretty squirrely to me.

However, the townies instead lynched SpANG, and although skoolmunkee said she would undoubtedly pardon SpANG if voted, she didn't.

That's sort of simplifying it. I didn't think anyone that day was mafia and would have pardoned Hark or whoever- but didn't want to waste it on los who had pretty much blown it at that point. I did say I would use it on Spang if I needed to, but shortly after that I clearly announced I wasn't going to because everyone jumped on my back about it. Only one vote came in and one vote changed during the ‘yes pardon’ period. At the point I said ‘no pardons’ there were about 5 hours still til the end of the ‘day.’ Votes didn't start changing and coming in until AFTER that point (I went back and checked just now) so I think it's reasonable to assume that everyone voting at that point had caught up with the thread and knew I wasn't going to pardon anyone at all. I didn't pull some last-second switch like you're implying.

If you want to you could ask those people whose votes came in after my ‘no pardons’ post if they think they were fooled in some way or were surprised that no one was pardoned.

Seeing how the vigilante leaderofstars was still alive by night two, skoolmunkee had no choice but to kill him then and there.

If I wanted to do that I would have just voted for him under pretenses of saving spang. The vote was 7 to 9, my vote would at least have put it into a tie. Actually, ‘what happens if there’s a tie' is an interesting question.

I'll also point out that every time someone is killed, she says she is too busy to solve the clues.

OK, I have to dispute this too. The day/night cycle turns over at 1am my time (and BK's summary comes in later than that), I have a fulltime job, I'm just not able to leap on things immediately. I have to wait til the next evening which is almost an entire day later. I don't really understand how you say I'm not solving clues because I DID try and do that for the first night, several times. This is only the second night, and I'm genuinely too busy with work. It's 10pm and I'm still working on a powerpoint I have to finish and print 10 copies of before bed. I haven't even had time to eat today except some cherries. I was telling the thread I wouldn't have time so someone else might do it. You're trying to set up a pattern that doesn't exist.

I'll probably be killed the next night anyways.

Well, they're not going to kill you now unless they want me to look more guilty.