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harkovast at 5:18PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Niccea the veterans could be “made men” or possibly “good fellas” or even “wise guys”

Skoolmunkee if you are mafia it means my insane hunches are right 50% of the time! I need you to be mafia to restore my self respect!

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Niccea at 5:25PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Niccea the veterans could be “made men” or possibly “good fellas” or even “wise guys”

Skoolmunkee if you are mafia it means my insane hunches are right 50% of the time! I need you to be mafia to restore my self respect!
That might work. The only gang/mafia related movies I've ever seen have been:

Westside Story
Analyze This
Analyze That

So I really don't know where I'm going with what I posted.

Edit: So if the veteran is a muscle head…what would a paramedic be called? Class 2 bodyguard?
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skoolmunkee at 5:50PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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OK, I'm typing this up during CSI, so if this all sounds particularly good it's because I'm channeling the awesome of Gary Sinise. If it sounds crummy I'm channeling that one sorta creepy lab guy who got held hostage with Danny.

This is a bit long and a bit convoluted- but if Oz is the godfather (and I believe he is), he would need a complicated plan in order to gain and keep the townie's trust long enough to kill us all off. Each of the little things don't necessarily stand up on their own as overly suspicious or anything, but when you put them together you can see a plan forming behind them.

OK, first I propose that Oz is the godfather. If he's the godfather, he would be in the clues:

Sea_Cow was having the most awesome dream. There was this delicious hamburger and it said to him “you have to eat me! I am too delicious! My bread is full of sesame and my meat is juicy and grilled to perfection!” and Sea_Cow, seeing the greater good in this, totally obliged.

He woke up with his teeth sunk into a horse’s head. Ewwww Sea_Cow! What kind of strange freak sleeps with a decapitated horse head?!
Odysseus55 was dreaming of the most delicious piece of toast ever. And what goes with a good piece of toast? Strawberry jam of course!

And that’s how the rest of the town found Odysseus55: lying in the middle of town square with a jam smeared head of a Waler Stallion head.

Seriously. What is up with you people and your kinky night actions?

At least she ate white bread.

ozoneocean - A Waler is an Australian horse, and it's odd that it was identified specifically as the first one was just ‘horse head’. The emphasis on white (bread) and red (strawberry jam) are a reference to PINK (white+red), Oz's comic is Pinky TA. All of Oz's comics are titled a color actually- black and white, white and black (template test accounts), pinky, pinky ta, and pink skin.

Originally I said I didn't see anything about all the food in these clues against Ozone, because I trusted him as a townie and didn't want to put up too much incriminating stuff against him. But with all the talk about being hungry and delicious food… Ozone has a flash thingy with fish in his profile and says “feed ma fishes - they're hungry” and also asking people to “feed my frog - please” although clicking that one didn't open anything for me. I had also found that in a forum thread linked from Oz's profile, Oz talks about all the delicious food he got for Christmas.

So there IS sensible stuff there against him. We could argue he's the godfather. There's not many clues overall in the short narrative so 3-4 are sensibly a large amount- especially since most of them are on a theme.

Notice Oz is talking about examining the clues, but didn't attempt to look at either of the godfather clues again.


Now that we have some evidence against him, let's look at his actions from the perspective of his being a mafia… who very much wants all the townies to believe he is one of them:

LeaderofStars/SpANG - He did not vote to lynch leaderofstars because he knew he was the vigilante and could kill him that night. He'd have his mafia send in the hit, and THEN have a paramedic go watch him- too late. So instead he immediately put his vote on SpANG, putting him smack under suspicion for all to see… who was an unknown and not responding to his PQs to tell roles. If SpANG did have a role, Oz didnt want to risk him finding out who he was. He had to go. Or it may be SpANG did tell him- we only have oz's word saying that SpANG didn't tell him. He could have used SpANG to get info, and then killed SpANG before he used that info in a mafia way and spang could expose him. SpANG was a good choice to get the townies against him, because he'd seen that SpANG looked the ‘worst’ in my earlier clue breakdown… and he expected me (as the one who found spang the most questionable of the lot) not to pardon spang when the time came. When I told him I was going to pardon SpANG, he cast suspicion on me in the thread because he wanted me to change my mind and let SpANG die- which worked. Notice he came into the thread JUST before votes were in and said “I almost wish now I had changed my vote…” so then he could say he was wrong and sorry after everyone saw he had voted for the detective.

Skullbie - Skullbie was killed because she was a bodyguard and one of the important townie roles he could be sure of. Skullbie was also popping up in the thread saying some observant things and Oz thought she might catch onto him eventually, especially as he had to share information (real or not) with them as he was supposed to be able to trust them- he'd have to trick them eventually, unless they were dead- so one less person to fool privately was fine with him. All those reasons worked to his advantage, and- A bodyguard dying right after a detective would get you guys whipped up and eager for the next person to be brought up as suspicious- Odysseus

Odysseus - In order to win everyone's trust, ESPECIALLY after the first couple of important townie deaths, a mafia HAD to die. Ody's clues were getting more obvious (if you knew what to look for, and Oz did). In fact, Oz was the one who ‘figured it out’ and told everyone - which would just cement the idea that Oz was NOT a mafioso- normal mafia wouldn't incriminate themselves, right? Let alone shout it so loudly. He would not necessarily need one of his hitmen after that point, if he could get people lynching others with doubt and influence, and he couldn't sacrifice himself as the godfather. He couldn't count on people believing that he knew who the mad hatter was as the mad hatter doesn't leave clues to prove his identity. It had to be one of the hitmen. So Oz outs Ody- and immediately Ody turns around and calls Oz the godfather. Why?

Ody's godfather accusation - I don't think a single person in the game believed Ody when he started calling Oz the godfather. It was too ridiculous to be true. That's what he was counting on- no one believing it. Oz being godfather was immediately rejected as an idea because it came in such an obvious and unbelievable way, from someone who was a known mafia, and would be assumed to just be trying to get Oz in trouble in a last-ditch effort to get payback on the guy who outed him. Oz was now hiding in plain sight. Getting his hitman lynched worked double duty for his believability as a townie mayor.

And then he pardoned Ody, so Ody could be used one more time…. to test out a townie still in doubt, apparently a paramedic IF hark is to be believed. If the paramedic was lying, then a townie would die and good for the mafia. If the townie lived, the paramedic was able to protect harkovast, and oz was sure that he could A: trust the paramedic to do as he asked, and B: send him (eventually, at a good time) after the paranoid to 1. get the paramedic killed, and 2. leave a false ‘mafia’ clue pointing at the paranoid. (He may have been hoping to get rid of both paramedics this way, unless something intervened…) As the last bonus to pardoning Ody, one of the next day's lynchings gets wasted on someone already known to be guilty. Of course he called a double lynch to maintain believability.

He then had humorman killed because humorman was speaking out against me. Having the mafia kill humorman would just make me look more in doubt (thus preserving the future possibility of having the town lynch me when I became a threat or wasn't needed), and also get rid of someone who was interested in the clues and figuring out possible plans. Again, if Hark is telling the truth, he was the protected target- maybe the mafia hit didn't get through before the paramedic, bad luck? Or Hark could be mafia and working with Oz on a distractionary move, gladly taken a paramedic and a meant-to-fail hit in order to make him look innocent…

Just before last night's actions turned over, I finally posted another long clue breakdown. This time I was able to pick out some evidence that Oz was possibly the godfather. I had in fact left some things out in order not to make him look worse (as I included up above), because I trusted him at that point. Oz realized I was his next biggest threat- although he had gained my trust and was probably hoping to get me to pardon the rest of his guys or useful townies if they got in trouble, and have me back up his plans (possibly incriminating me later as a mafia in the event he was found out - which seems to be happening with this gullas thing wouldn't you say?)… but I was his biggest threat as the only person systematically examining the clues and everyone's profiles. He did not intend to leave any more horse heads so he knew we would keep coming back to those clues and not finding anyone more suspicious than him in them. He couldn't hit me that night, I had posted my clues nearly at the end of the night. All the actions would have been in by then. He had to get me lynched. He couldn't hit me the next night because of the bodyguard- Ody would be gone.

So again, Oz is the one jumping in first with as many clues against one person as he can - following the Ody pattern, but this time with a townie because he knows you'd be more likely to believe him the second time if it worked the first. Earlier in the thread someone mentioned the tendency for people to follow the first option presented- and he knows that works too because he was voted in to be mayor. All clues against skoolmunkee- And NO clues pointing to anyone else- which as you've seen from my clue breakdowns, there's a little bit of something in the clues to spread around to almost everybody whether you intend that to be the case or not. He's asking you guys to examine the clues because he knows from past experience that most of you won't, or at least not very thoroughly.

And also again, here Ozone is saying “I don't want it to be true, I trust skoolmunkee, everyone try to solve the clues” so that if I were lynched, and the town saw I wasn't mafia, he could again say (like spang) he was sorry and made a mistake and people might believe him. He'd be able to say because no one could come up with anything (because he knew few people would bother) it seemed like I was the best choice to people.

I've probably gone waaaaaaaay overboard here, but this is so fun. :D I don't even care much if the above stuff is all right or not or I get lynched anyway… but it was fun to put everything together and I certainly believe Oz is capable of a plan like that. But in addition to his presence in the godfather clues… I really think I am right.



And as for who the real mafia hitman could be… coming up in my next post…
IT'S OLD BATMAN
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Vakanai at 6:01PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Well, what's been going on today?
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Niccea at 6:20PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Well, what's been going on today?
I'm making up rules for Reverse Mafia.
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harkovast at 6:32PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Skoolmunkee that looked really convincing, but it is a lot to read and I'm tired so I will jsut assume you are guilty instead.
Takes less work.

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skoolmunkee at 6:34PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Well now you are really going to hate me Hark. :]

I think both Harkovast or Vakanai make good candidates for the hitman. I don't have a “YES that is the answer!” like we got with Ody… but is that surprising considering that if Oz is the godfather, he knew what to look for?

At any rate, hopefully the clues against these two are just as (un?)substantial as the clues Oz raised against me. If you notice, some of them even overlap the stuff that's supposed to be about me:

Knock knock!

Leaderofstars was polishing his chainsaw when he hears a knock on his door. “I AM NOT HOME RIGHT NOW!”

Knock knock!

Well that didn’t work.

Knock knock!

Grumbling Leaderofstars tried Plan B: actually answering the door. Throwing open the door to his home, he roughly mutters, “what is it?!”

“You!” the young stranger said sternly with a finger pointed straight at his nose, “why aren’t you in bed?!”

”What the hell? You’re not my mother! Why don’t you take that finger and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine!”

And so the young stranger did. Apparently the sun doesn’t shine inside Leaderofstars’ skull.

HEY EVERYONE TAKE NOTE! Be careful what you ask for.

There'll be a quiz tomorrow on that.


Harkovast -
- leaderofstars was polishing - Hark's characters have swords and armor which need to be polished.
- Hark also has kids and said in a recent interview (linked to from his profile!) that the kids need to be in bed before his wife works on comics- “why aren't you in bed?” coming from los's “mother”. And then, arguably, he was put to bed.
- If LoS was supposed to go to bed, it must be night. Also, “The sun doesn't shine.” Night=Knight. Harkovast's avatar is a knight.
- Harkovast recently interviewed someone, and got interviewed in turn. You can find a link to his advertising this in his ‘recent posts’ part of his profile. This is the questioning connection


vakanai -
- nighttime/sun doesn't shine = has a comic called “the dark life” and another called “Rumbles Late night” and mentions the tv show “Late Night” in his profile.
- Profile says he likes Crag Ferguson, a comedian, which is the knock knock joke.
- Also says he likes Bruce Campbell, an actor famous for his… chainsaw.
- Vakanai's character is a stick figure and could conceivably be considered “pointy”

Humorman was just about settled in bed when the phone rang. Doo bee doo bee doo! Placing the phone against his ear, a voice crackled on the other end, “what time is it?”

Uh…it’s a bit past midnight. Who is this?” inquired Humorman politely. He really must go to bed…

tomorrow’s going to be a big day what with that lynching and the whole job thing and the waking up thing and you know…

“Does it really matter? Listen I got this hot story that I need to run to the press! But did you know that the press closes so early?!”

“I didn’t know that…” humoured Humorman. “I suppose we learn something new everyday. Listen who are you and why are you calling? It’s very la-“

“Anyway that’s not important! The important thing is that tonight I need to get this story out! So. What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?”

“Huh? I… I don't know that.”

And that was how Humorman was thrown into a volcano.


Harkovast -
- the Monty Python sketch is about a swallow (possibly African, possibly English). Python, birds, different cultures - Hark says in his profile that his comic is about numberous cultures and creatures.
- the sketch also involved knights. Hark's comic - knights!
- Again we have a reference to going to bed. Night. Knight.
- Hark's profile says he has set up a forum for ‘information and opinions’ - is that not what a newspaper is about?
- The journalist also points at the interviews that show up in his profile.


Vakanai -
- The Monty Python sketch is also about coconuts. There is a “hot” story. Bruce Campbell's character's name is Ash. Has a comic called “Rumbles.” Another named “Hell” In the Pipes. Vakanai's avatar is mostly red and features a large V. VOLCANO
- A journalist asks questions. A detective asks questions. Vakanai has a detective comic - Flip's Inspective Agency.
- Again with nighttime, so again we have “The Dark Life”, “Rumbles Late Night” and tv show “Late Night”
- Famous comedy show Monty Python could hint at the comedian present in profile
- This seems like a stretch, but popping Vakanai into google turns up “Did you mean Vakarai?” which is a newspaper in an area near where BK lives… but Vakanai itself doesn't seem to be a namesake of anything
IT'S OLD BATMAN
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Black_Kitty at 6:58PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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New tally update! Now with 100% vote counts too!

Odysseus55 - 9 votes
Gullas
harkovast
Sea_Cow
Mutation
Waff
Niccea
Nersop
skoolmunkee

Skoolmunkee - 2 votes
Gullas
harkovast

Gullas - 3 votes
Sea_Cow
odysseus55
Nersop

martinlo_23 - 1 vote
the2ndredbaron

Ozoneocean - 4 votes
the2ndredbaron
skoolmunkee
Niccea

Harkovast - 1 vote
odysseus55

Nersop - 1 vote
Mutation


As Gullas has reached second place first, it is now Odysessus55 and Gullas in the lead~

Edit: Okay nevermind, it's now Ozone in the lead~
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Ozoneocean at 7:18PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Ok… why would I be the godfather? That's too convoluted and silly. But I appreciate the effort Skool put in there, she's made a spirited attack on my credentials, But now I'm thinking that she really IS the other mafia killer, She hasn't refuted those clues, no one has. She attacks my credibility instead. lol!

So For Skool as the other mafia killer, I have 3 reasons unfortunately:

1. The clues fit:

These could point to Skoolmunkee…
Clues regarding her comic titles:
-Questions:
One of her comics is called “answerers”
-That also ties into the thing Los was told “careful what you ASK for”

-Humourman says “I learn something new every day”:
One is called “what I learned today”.

-The time when people really have to be in bed before too late is when they're still in school… (skool)
-You have quizzes in School… And as I say, “answers” is a theme of one of her comics.
-Her avy seems to be knocking..
-Not only that but there's a clue about Stories having to go to press:
Her comic name: “Made up Stories”


2. Both Gullas and her claimed to me they were the paranoid. I feel safe in saying that role now because the mafia can't really lynch him easily and I think SKool IS mafia now, so in that case they already know. One of them HAD to be mafia, I thought it was Gullas…

3. After I point out all the clues to people, saying that they SEEM to point to her.. She straight away goes off and accuses ME of being the Godfather? huh!?
SO rather than prove who the “real” killer is, discredit the guy with the clues… I wasn't even accusing her…



So, I say Lynch Skool AND Od
The clues fit them.

I'll adress SKool,s accusations later, if they need it…
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Sea_Cow at 7:32PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Oh shit, they can't lynch ozone! He's my idol! I looked up at the big billboards of ozoneocean when I was a little boy and I thought “When I grow up, I want to be like him!”

It didn't really work out, but oh well.
I am so happy to finally be back home
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Black_Kitty at 7:38PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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New tally update! Now with 100% vote counts too!

Odysseus55 - 13 votes
Gullas
harkovast
Sea_Cow
Mutation
Waff
Niccea
Nersop
skoolmunkee
ozoneocean
Vakanai

Skoolmunkee - 6 votes
Gullas
harkovast
ozoneocean
Vakanai

Gullas - 2 votes
Sea_Cow
Nersop

martinlo_23 - 1 vote
the2ndredbaron

Ozoneocean - 5 votes
the2ndredbaron
skoolmunkee
Niccea
odysseus55

Harkovast - 1 vote
odysseus55

Nersop - 1 vote
Mutation


Odysseus55 maintains the lead while Skoolmunkee slips in as second~
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Ozoneocean at 7:38PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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Notice that Niccea is also voting for me?

If you look at the godfather clues you'll notice that they're mostly about food. She has a very food based comic. No one else is even close. ;)

—–
I've looked over her accusations and there's nothing there I have to address. It's all mainly a circumstantial story aimed at convincing others… No real clues, no substance, just a wall of words that screem : "DON"T LOOK AT THE CLUES AGAINST ME! LYNCH OZONE INSTEAD!“ lol!

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These are the clues no one has bothered to refute, not even SKool herself. I even asked her to in private messages about a million times, but all I get is ”I'm going to get you lynched instead:

The clues fit:

These point to Skoolmunkee
Clues regarding her comic titles:
-Questions:
One of her comics is called “answerers”
-That also ties into the thing Los was told “careful what you ASK for”

-Humourman says “I learn something new every day”:
One is called “what I learned today”.

-Not only that but there's a clue about Stories having to go to press:
Her comic name: “Made up Stories”

-The time when people really have to be in bed before too late is when they're still in school… (skool)
-You have quizzes in School… And as I say, “answers” is a theme of one of her comics.
-Her avy seems to be knocking..
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Vakanai at 8:16PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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I think both Harkovast or Vakanai make good candidates for the hitman.

What?

Someone
vakanai -
- nighttime/sun doesn't shine = has a comic called “the dark life” and another called “Rumbles Late night” and mentions the tv show “Late Night” in his profile.
- Profile says he likes Crag Ferguson, a comedian, which is the knock knock joke.
- Also says he likes Bruce Campbell, an actor famous for his… chainsaw.
- Vakanai's character is a stick figure and could conceivably be considered “pointy”

The last two are a stretch. The night thing seems a bit pointless.

Someone
Vakanai -
- The Monty Python sketch is also about coconuts. There is a “hot” story. Bruce Campbell's character's name is Ash. Has a comic called “Rumbles.” Another named “Hell” In the Pipes. Vakanai's avatar is mostly red and features a large V. VOLCANO
- A journalist asks questions. A detective asks questions. Vakanai has a detective comic - Flip's Inspective Agency.
- Again with nighttime, so again we have “The Dark Life”, “Rumbles Late Night” and tv show “Late Night”
- Famous comedy show Monty Python could hint at the comedian present in profile
- This seems like a stretch, but popping Vakanai into google turns up “Did you mean Vakarai?” which is a newspaper in an area near where BK lives… but Vakanai itself doesn't seem to be a namesake of anything
You lost me on the first one.

You know, I still don't have a plan for This Dark Life, all I know is I really like the name.
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the2ndredbaron at 9:24PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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I don't trust either ozone or skool any more, and for the record I voted for Ozone before skool went on the rant, not after just because I figured it was a safe vote.
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odysseus55 at 9:38PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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blah blah blah

You are forgetting the the central point here: ME. Why are you deviating from the plan? We were going to focus the townies attention on ME and slip clues about Gullas to get him lynched.

Now you are getting lost on this Skoolmunkee business and Gullas is slipping in the vote. You have got to stay the course, this constant changing of directions doesnt help our end.

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Ozoneocean at 9:57PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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ozoneocean
blah blah blah

You are forgetting the the central point here: ME. Why are you deviating from the plan? We were going to focus the townies attention on ME and slip clues about Gullas to get him lynched.

Now you are getting lost on this Skoolmunkee business and Gullas is slipping in the vote. You have got to stay the course, this constant changing of directions doesnt help our end.
lol!

The central “plan” is for the two mafia killers to die.
You, as everyone already knows are first for the noose.
Skool is the other one claiming to be the paranoid, I now see I was wrong to trus HER over Gullas.

You can “blah blah” me all you like but I've listed how those clues exactly point to Skool and yet NO one has refuted them.

Lastly: Why would Skool want to lynch the godfather at this stage?
It makes no sense! For the townies to win they need to get rid of the two mafia killers first. The godfather has NO power to kill. She's only doing that to try and divert people from the evidence.

Sorry Red Barron, but I'm thinking that anyone voting for me to be lynched is mafia. I see that in Skool now, I suspect Niccea of being the Godfather because of all the millions of FOOD clues attached to the horse heads and in her comic about Food! I don't know WHO is the hatter.

—–
remeber the clues:

Skoolmunkee…
Clues regarding her comic titles:
-Questions:
One of her comics is called “answerers”
-That also ties into the thing Los was told “careful what you ASK for”

-Humourman says “I learn something new every day”:
One is called “what I learned today”.

-Not only that but there's a clue about Stories having to go to press:
Her comic name: “Made up Stories”

-The time when people really have to be in bed before too late is when they're still in school… (skool)
-You have quizzes in School… And as I say, “answers” is a theme of one of her comics.
-Her avy seems to be knocking..

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the2ndredbaron at 11:04PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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is it to late to change my vote then?
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Ozoneocean at 11:11PM, Jan. 31, 2009
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is it to late to change my vote then?
It's not too late to change your vote, but don't do that because you think I'm threatening you.

As I say, I have no idea who the hatter is. None. I was SURE it was humorman.
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skoolmunkee at 2:30AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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Skool is the other one claiming to be the paranoid, I now see I was wrong to trus HER over Gullas.
I told you I'm the paranoid beacuse I am. And now you are using the other paranoid (gullas, who is probably a townie who just wanted to keep mafia away from him) as someone who will support you.

Lastly: Why would Skool want to lynch the godfather at this stage?
Because he is trying to get me lynched, of course.

It makes no sense! For the townies to win they need to get rid of the two mafia killers first. The godfather has NO power to kill.
For the town to win, ALL mafia have to die. And I've already looked at the clues and brought up two people who also fit the clues very well. Maybe they don't fit them better than me, but they certainly don't fit them worse. Food for thought- why would a full pair of clues look equally incriminating for 3 people? Maybe because none are quite right? Shouldn't there be an obvious answer? There was with Ody.

ozoneocean
If you look at the godfather clues you'll notice that they're mostly about food. She has a very food based comic. No one else is even close. ;)
Except you. I think there's a lot more in there about you, multiple instances, versus just food looking bad for one person. You've got several food connections, plus at least 2 other things.

I've looked over her accusations and there's nothing there I have to address.
I know my case is impossible to back up with proof other than it making sense and what people can infer from your actions. I think you're trying the “ignore it- if I make it seem unimportant, other people won't pay attention to it either” trick. And although it's important to look at clues (as I did with you, and found plenty of evidence for my own mind) it may be important to look at motivations and game actions too.

How do you expect to find the mad hatter? There are no clues in that case… only people's best guesses on suspicions and motivations.

I know this might just look like a desperate attempt to incriminate you, but in my mind you are a mafia now and everything I wrote out makes sense explaining it. If I feel like you've accused me (which I do) then why not post it? Hopefully it will at least give people something to think about. That's more hope than I would have if I just let people not examine clues and not look very far for answers, as they have been doing so far, and just going with the most obvious solution presented at the time- the one you brought up.

These are the clues no one has bothered to refute, not even SKool herself. I even asked her to in private messages about a million times
You did not. You asked me once. I gave you two very good reasons why I'm not and you expressed skepticism. If you didn't want to believe them, then why would I continue to try convincing you in private? You'd already listed things against me in the thread, I might as well take any fight I have into that.

If people think I'm a mafia then A: They won't believe any refutation of the clues I make anyway, and B: jumping in to refute right away would probably just make me look more suspicious to them. I realized that although you said you ‘trusted’ me you were the first one to post something making the clues point at me- which is as good as an accusation in this game, despite your saying you “never accused anybody.”

The clues fit:
Those same clues fit two other people very well too, about the same amount as they fit me. Which I've noticed you've completely ignored, despite you being the one to ask everybody to look harder at clues.

-The time when people really have to be in bed before too late is when they're still in school… (skool)
I think this is weak. Humorman says he has to be up the next day for the lynching, job, and something else, but not school, or even anything that could be linked to school. I think you are wrong about this “staying up late=school” thing. People have to get up early for a lot of reasons. Hark and Vast have stronger connections to the ‘late night’ thing here, which I already brought up… and you are ignoring.

-Her avy seems to be knocking..
This one is also weak. He could be knocking, I suppose, but if you watch the animation it looks more like he's cheering and punching (he does have boxing gloves on). Maybe if LoS were drinking punch or something it would point to my avatar but I think you are wrong on this one too.
IT'S OLD BATMAN
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harkovast at 4:04AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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Skoolmunkee, your argument for me is so stretched you might dislocate your arm!
Polishing my armour?
Links to my comic being “answers”?
Those are the crappiest attempts at clues I have ever heard!
Especially comming from someone who has a comic ABOUT ANSWERS!

Ozone is innocent, he has already saved my life once by sending a paramedic to help me.
Skool is the bad guy/ girl/ monkey!
Lynch that primate!

For more Harkovast related goings on, go to the Harkovast Forum
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Ozoneocean at 5:01AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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Lastly: Why would Skool want to lynch the godfather at this stage?
Because he is trying to get me lynched, of course.
I wasn't though…

I suddenly saw how all those clues fit to you and I was shocked. I asked people to find out about it, if they fit someone else, even you. No one did.

Next thing I knew you'd started a campaign to get me lynched.

And it was that above all that finally convinced me that you MUST be the killer.
—————

You see Skool, you made a fatal mistake ;)
You played is so cool and calm before, I even gave you the full list of all the roles people told me… I honestly believed you were a townie. If you'd have refuted those clues when I came with them to you, I would have believed that too, and I'd have still been after Gullas most likely…

But you turned around and said I must be the godfather and said you'd have me lynched. Nothing in between…

heh, and to think I suspected humorman AND Harkovast… Man, even Nersop! Not to mention poor Gullas, who might STILL be lynched because of my idiocy.

You SKool, are one SMOOOOTH operator, and I am a massive tool… lol!
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skoolmunkee at 5:05AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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But you turned around and said I must be the godfather and said you'd have me lynched. Nothing in between…

Ain't nothin' wrong with gettin' into a game. T_T

Still not responding to anything I've said, I see! Don't want to give them credibility, perhaps?
IT'S OLD BATMAN
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Ozoneocean at 5:13AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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ozoneocean
But you turned around and said I must be the godfather and said you'd have me lynched. Nothing in between…

Ain't nothin' wrong with gettin' into a game. T_T

Still not responding to anything I've said, I see! Don't want to give them credibility, perhaps?
Ooooh yesss… You try and refute them NOW, after going on the attack and throwing an amazingly weak conspiracy at me… If you'd have put that much effort into denying the clues when I came to you with them, instead of this silly thing claiming I was the Godfather instead, like I say, I would've believed it.

But because of that, now I know.

You played it even better than Odysseus. I salute you!

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I have nothing to address you don't say anything new, and what you do say, is a little tooo late. But you did play well. :)
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Niccea at 6:19AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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It is getting hot in here. *puppy eyes* Do not sacrifice your friendships over this game! I doubt you are, but you know…have to say it. Mainly saying cause ozone and skool work together.
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waff at 7:29AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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Skoolmunkee if you are mafia it means my insane hunches are right 50% of the time! I need you to be mafia to restore my self respect!
I need somone (except ody) to be in the mafia so i can kill them after finding out where they got a volcano from.

'there is no “overkill” there is only “open fire” and “time to reload” rule #37
the things on my box are a dead squirell, a medal and a paper bag hat.
ow! I have shards of the fourth wall in my eye!
WAFF-MAN!! as of mafia VI
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waff at 8:06AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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I actually believe that skool and ozone are either both townies or both mafia
townies-each feverently believes that the other is mafia or have had a ‘disagreement’.
mafia-they are accusing each other to get attention from the other mafias or they are the don and madhatter and are bored.

'there is no “overkill” there is only “open fire” and “time to reload” rule #37
the things on my box are a dead squirell, a medal and a paper bag hat.
ow! I have shards of the fourth wall in my eye!
WAFF-MAN!! as of mafia VI
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Niccea at 8:24AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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harkovast
Skoolmunkee if you are mafia it means my insane hunches are right 50% of the time! I need you to be mafia to restore my self respect!
I need somone (except ody) to be in the mafia so i can kill them after finding out where they got a volcano from.
They got it from BK, as creator of this town she can put in and take away whatever feature she wants.
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waff at 9:16AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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waff
harkovast
Skoolmunkee if you are mafia it means my insane hunches are right 50% of the time! I need you to be mafia to restore my self respect!
I need somone (except ody) to be in the mafia so i can kill them after finding out where they got a volcano from.
They got it from BK, as creator of this town she can put in and take away whatever feature she wants.
ya mean she's god?of townston?

'there is no “overkill” there is only “open fire” and “time to reload” rule #37
the things on my box are a dead squirell, a medal and a paper bag hat.
ow! I have shards of the fourth wall in my eye!
WAFF-MAN!! as of mafia VI
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Niccea at 9:23AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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She created it didn't she? She also knows exactly what is going on. To an annoying point too.
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odysseus55 at 9:27AM, Feb. 1, 2009
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I think you are “Fitting” the clues to suit your answer.

Let me try:

Ozoneocean
remeber the clues:

Gullas…
Clues regarding his comic:
-Questions:fully half of his comics involve questions
-That also ties into the thing Los was told “careful what you ASK for” because Bobbie often gets into difficulty because of what he asks for

-Humourman says “I learn something new every day”:
Gullas has bobby explaining MATHEMATICS.

Matinlo_23
-The time when people really have to be in bed before too late is when they're still in school… (Young and school)
-has a link to Sonic COLLEGE… (school)
-has a link to Bocaj - looks like knocking.
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