Prank
Anyways, the first half is a reference to a Futurama episode;

I find it important to mention that the “It turns out to be a man bit” was originally referring to the twilight zone.

Prank
But it's naturally curly judging by apparent ethnicity and the way she wears it in her sketch, no? Plus it belonged to Humorman, not the killer.

I believe the clue lies in the events leading up to the death and the killers personal weapon.

In Humorman we have;

Science Fiction/Combat Knife

In ozone we have;

Sports/Tommy Gun

I've been thinking the same thing. Right now it's impossible to say anything for sure, but I think it would be worth checking out anyone with a science fiction and a sports comic out. Just to be on the safe side. Or maybe an army comic, judging by the combat knife…

Also it took my like 10 minutes to find the thread. :(
Lurking is what I do. I don't want to get killed by the mafia, so I'm thinking of keeping a low profile.

I did not specify this in the rules and I apologize for it, but the pardoner cannot pardon himself, and all clues are gender neutral.

I'll put up the official tally for the votes in a bit later.

In other news, I think I actually have a sinus infection, so who knows maybe I can finagle a day or two off.

Votes will now be posted on page one.

Prank
Gullas
Aghammer


Catcatdragoo
The2ndRedBaron

GiantPinkWalrus
Waff

TheFlyingGreenMonkey
Skoolmunkee

Gah you skipped ahead so much. T-T Can someone PQ me a clue breakdown? Quickly? I won't be here until after 6 tonight. So I need answers fast.

Niccea
Gah you skipped ahead so much. T-T Can someone PQ me a clue breakdown? Quickly? I won't be here until after 6 tonight. So I need answers fast.

I think it's giant pink walrus.

waff in a previous post
well I personally think that giantpinkwalrus (hereby abbreviated to gpw) did in humorman.why? the killer was silent (gpw han't posted yet) even when killing humorman unlike ozone's who commentated on his weapons magazine, the knife (gpw has a comic called optic dissection the thumbnail of which is a bloodied knife) and the curling tongs (the theme of optic dissection is ‘sick filth’. How much more sick filth can you get than ramming a set of hot curling tongs into someones eye?).

I got a Life or Death exam in half an hour. I know who I'm voting for and have seriously considered previously, but I'm not asking you to follow me into this vote. I'll explain when I actually have time.

The silent clue and the eye thing might work, but it could be a stretch or the dreaded red herring.

yada yada school, yada yada work, yada yada life.. what is with you people?? :D Hopefully today we will actually lynch a mafia on day one (it would be the first time in the games I've played).

Niccea
I got a Life or Death exam in half an hour. I know who I'm voting for and have seriously considered previously, but I'm not asking you to follow me into this vote. I'll explain when I actually have time.

The silent clue and the eye thing might work, but it could be a stretch or the dreaded red herring.

prank

Someone
I think it's giant pink walrus.

Taking into account that both things are quite vague and point to 2-3 other people, I believe its a faulty line of reasoning.

in my defense I did get atleast 2-3 clues pointing at him so that narrows it down somewhat.
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prank you need to pq your vote to hakoshen

waff

prank

Someone
I think it's giant pink walrus.

Taking into account that both things are quite vague and point to 2-3 other people, I believe its a faulty line of reasoning.

in my defense I did get atleast 2-3 clues pointing at him so that narrows it down somewhat.
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prank you need to pq your vote to hakoshen

So you are basing your accusation on a thumbnail Drasnus drew and on a comic Drasnus drew and on a comic that is mostly done by Drasnus?

Your reasoning is shaky at best. What are you going to do, kill off all possible suspects(by with your reasoning there are 1 or 2 including me). I think we should concentrate on concrete evidence rather than something like this.

I am now availble to verbalize my vote and reasons for it.

I tell everyone, I suck at solving clues. I go by more the interactions that occur in the game to root out the mafia.

So I'm going to look at an entirely different object and I would like to see if anyone will roll with me on this.

I was attacked last night. (Thank you bodygaurds!)

But who would attack the mayor when it very clearly states that Mayor cannot be hit. (And it has always been that way.)

There are two ways of logic for this.

Newb Mafia - Unlikely really. There are not too many newbs in this game and from what I am seeing from posts, most of the newbs are understanding the rules. Some have even claimed to have gone back and read the archives. I'm not saying that this is impossible, but it is an unlikely answer.

Rogue Vigilante - I consulted with the detective. I know who the vigilante is and I intend to vote for him or her.

Yes I know I know. “We need the vigilante to find the mafia and kill them during night strikes.” But the vigilante might turn out to just start killing people at random not caring whether they are mafia or not.

Very confusing really, but if the vigilante was the one to attack me, (no one has fessed up to the role yet and one person refused to flat out give me anything), that might mean that he and she is willing to waste hits rather than help destroy the mafia.


On the other hand I have some very good news. The mafia cannot defeat us until we are all dead. It is no longer equal or greater to number of townies. So if they want to beat us, they have to get through all of us.


Note: I'm not verbalizing who the vig is until I see if this path works out for everyone. I do not want to leave him or her a sitting duck for the mafia if they survives the lynch.

GiantPinkWalrus

waff

prank

Someone
I think it's giant pink walrus.

Taking into account that both things are quite vague and point to 2-3 other people, I believe its a faulty line of reasoning.

in my defense I did get atleast 2-3 clues pointing at him so that narrows it down somewhat.
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prank you need to pq your vote to hakoshen

So you are basing your accusation on a thumbnail Drasnus drew and on a comic Drasnus drew and on a comic that is mostly done by Drasnus?

Your reasoning is shaky at best. What are you going to do, kill off all possible suspects(by with your reasoning there are 1 or 2 including me). I think we should concentrate on concrete evidence rather than something like this.

pretty much.sorry.

Things never go very well for the vigilante in this game… though that's maybe because they always try killing someone right away.


I've tried to catch up on today's discussion. I think the arguments for FlyingGreenMonkey were the strongest really, but none of them seemed very good. If FGM was mafia, then the godfather could pardon him- so he felt okay saying he'd be able to pardon himself, and have us think it was him doing it, and not the godfather? Maybe he knew all along he couldn't pardon himself.

Also, FGM is an animal, but he also has kitty cats in his signature and as the main characters of his comic. So there's more animals there to link with the ‘animal’ clue in Humorman's killer.

FGM is wearing a green army helmet, and Humorman was killed with a combat knife. Also, Humorman's killer ‘lurked in the doorway’ and in the only page of FGM's “The Rejects” there are TWO “shadowy figures lurking here” - they are labeled exactly as that in the page.

Maybe you could also argue that as Humorman's killer couldn't kill him right away and had to try a few different weapons, that's a reference to FGM's comic “No Talent” (maybe he has no talent at killing?) and in the comic's second page, he says he is going to switch techniques…. from a knife to a curling iron?

Just to clear, based on past games… the first night's narrative has some real clues but a lot of red herrings. It's very difficult to come up with “concrete” proof until the second night's narrative as which point there are additional clues that make it clear which clues from day one are important in all the noise. For example, there is a knife and a gun on the first night… there is always a knife and a gun on the first night. Does it matter that it was a combat knife or a Tommy gun? Maybe. Kitty pointed out that the movie in one of the narratives sounded a lot like waff's monster… so true, but also probably a red herring. Anything toooo obvious after the first night is probably a red herring.

I personally believe the “silent” clue is important as mafia members will avoid posting until the first night is over. Not a strong clue but definitely one to consider.

So, at this point we will have to go on are iffy clues and conjucture in the hopes of lyncing an actual mafia member. The other option is to waste the lynch… that never works out well.

waff

GiantPinkWalrus

waff

prank

Someone
I think it's giant pink walrus.

Taking into account that both things are quite vague and point to 2-3 other people, I believe its a faulty line of reasoning.

in my defense I did get atleast 2-3 clues pointing at him so that narrows it down somewhat.
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prank you need to pq your vote to hakoshen

So you are basing your accusation on a thumbnail Drasnus drew and on a comic Drasnus drew and on a comic that is mostly done by Drasnus?

Your reasoning is shaky at best. What are you going to do, kill off all possible suspects(by with your reasoning there are 1 or 2 including me). I think we should concentrate on concrete evidence rather than something like this.

pretty much.sorry.

Ok. I just took a jab at the clues now that my IQ level is up 10 points on the account of not being tired and this is what I got out of it.

He who killed Humorman is a lurker. His entrance and exit are described like this “he noticed the quiet figure lurking in the doorway” and “the killer stalked away into the night”. I'm inclined to follow the theory that he who did it had either posted very little or not at all. Let us remember though that this only applies to the point up to the killings.

He who killed Ozon is probably the Godfather since he held that title during Hakoshens narration. Thus he should be the main focus of our attention. Interestingly enough the motive given is that Ozon owed him gambling money. This could be an indication that the killer likes gambling.

We also know that someone attempted to strike at Niccea. I'm confident that we're dealing with a rookie who thought he could go for the main target without realizing that the bodyguard has to be taken out first.

Now I haven't checked anyone's personal bio or comics yet so I'm a bit oblivious who could be the main suspects but I'm certain that these are the directions we should look at.

True, but in the games I've played they tend to help the mafia more than the townies. I haven't seen any indication that Nic is mafia, yet they tried to take her out? Not very well thought out. In fact, it seems to indicate that the vig is new to the game and might hold a grudge..over losing the mayor race? Not sure… anyway, I have no problem lynching the vigilante if they are going to do random hits like in mafia iv.

If the vigilante wants to PQ me and explain, I'd appreciate it. :)

skoolmunkee
Things never go very well for the vigilante in this game… though that's maybe because they always try killing someone right away.

FGM is wearing a green army helmet, and Humorman was killed with a combat knife.

Edit: FGM has indicated that this is a fuzzy green hat so I don't think it's a helmet… just a skullcap hat. That doesn't clear him… just to clarify.

If the Vigilante was the one who tried to kill Niccea then he's wasted one of his hits and only has one left. That means that he's not much of a threat anymore. Sure he'll still be able to go after one more victim but after that he's powerless.

Niccea
Killing the vigilante

I agree. The vigilante is basically mafia but with the same win conditions as the townies. Let's help him out and kill him, them win for him.

Or you could just state his name here and let the mafia do it. >_>

Is it too late to declare a double lynch actually?…

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If the Vigilante was the one who tried to kill Niccea then he's wasted one of his hits and only has one left. That means that he's not much of a threat anymore. Sure he'll still be able to go after one more victim but after that he's powerless.

There is nothing that states the Vig gets only one hit.

I will state his name if that is the concensous. I just don't want to be accused as being a bad mayor. Ochi turned me into mafia bait in game II

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If the Vigilante was the one who tried to kill Niccea then he's wasted one of his hits and only has one left.

In this game the vig can kill once per night. There's no limit.

I just think it's funny that in the times I've played the game, the vigilante tries to kill someone right away and just ends up getting themselves in trouble instead. Either we've got a newbie vigilante, or one that just doesn't learn from others' mistakes.

crocty
Is it too late to declare a double lynch actually?…

Double lynches have to be decided during the night cycle, or first thing in the day, so voting can be arranged accordingly.

Aghammer
Edit: FGM has indicated that this is a fuzzy green hat so I don't think it's a helmet… just a skullcap hat. That doesn't clear him… just to clarify.

I think we just have to go on what it looks like. There's nothing really that says it isn't a helmet, and if Hakoshen was writing clues he's not going to PQ someone to ask whether their helmet-looking hat is really a helmet or not. So, it may be a fuzzy hat- but I don't think that matters.

skoolmunkee
That seems like kind of a weird thing to do though, if Niccea knows who they are then they've told her themselves- if they trusted her enough to do that, why try to kill her? Unless they thought they could kill her afterwards. Or… unless Niccea figured them out by process of elimination.

Process of elimination. Brought my opinion the detective and they confirmed it for me. (This was early just after the narrative before the clues started being sorted)

CatCat: Animal clue, and hair is curly might mean curlying iron.
TFGM: Animal clue, and is green((which according to prank is an evil color)) also a monkey((which according to prank is evil))
skool: Animal clue, I"m not looking at all those bloody comics today to see if there are anyother clues.
LoS: No clues
Drasnus: Hasn't post clue, In zombie comic 1st page character is in doorway((might be a clue?))
GPW:Hasn't post clue, Bloody knife for thumbnail of a comic, ((Still need to go though comics to see if any more clues.))

My avi is wearing a green fluffy hat. I opened a hatshop before the kills even went down cause someone commented on my awesome hat. HAT!! lol.

God dam it. I know I remember reading that the Vig got only two hits during Harks original rule drafts. I also advocated that the Vig should get limited kills because it lowers the possibility of him using it unresponsively.

The vig should come clean to Niccea otherwise I say we should treat him just like we would treat the mafia or risk ending up with gullas jr.

TheFlyingGreenMonkey
list of clues related to animals…

I think we're going in the wrong directions with these animal clues. If you look at my previous post you'll see my interpretation of the narration.

I didn't know I couldn't pardon myself until hak told me. The rules said has power to cancel two lynches it didn't say anything about not choicing myself and in the last game the pardoner didn't come up.

Also are we sure the whole pawn thing was an attack? I thought it was just a thing hak put in to spice up the story. You know the whole we killed two townies and pawned you. I mean whouldn't it have said someone attempted to kill her?

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The vig should come clean to Niccea otherwise I say we should treat him just like we would treat the mafia or risk ending up with gullas jr.

I know who it is. I tried to reason with him…I know he won't be reasoned with.

In that case tell us who he is. Let the mafia worry about him.

Also… why is he being unreasonable?

Also, also… do you think he was the one who attempted to kill you?

I know who the vigilante is then, based on what Niccea just said.

He also PQed me, but I didn't believe him…

I'm also confused as to why noone killed him earlier anyway.

Wait? He PQed you? Why?

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In that case tell us who he is. Let the mafia worry about him.

Also… why is he being unreasonable?

Also, also… do you think he was the one who attempted to kill you?

Cause he constantly harasses me and called me a stupid bitch in the sign up thread…

and I quote when I asked for roles.

The Vigilante
my reasons for not helping you
1. you let red take my game
2. i don't trust my enemies

I posted that list cause I wanted to help out. I'm starting to think skool and prank are mafia but then again I havn't done anything to be a threat enough to be framed.

My characters are cat humaniods things((theres more than one comic with animal people in it)), my hat is a fluffy green hat so this one is rediculas, This is what PP most of felt like last game :(

Niccea
my reasons for not helping you
1. you let red take my game
2. i don't trust my enemies

I know who it is now.