OzoneoceanDrat! - and I was planning to assist my own comic.
Sorry man, that sort of thing is frowned upon here.
Now I'll never get the damn thing started.
OzoneoceanDrat! - and I was planning to assist my own comic.
Sorry man, that sort of thing is frowned upon here.
parkbenchbookI'd rather die! :P
I'd rather talk comics.
kingofsnakeI've noticed this trend too. Some of my favorite comics left like Roguehill's ghost comic, Pictures of You, and gunnerdan(sp?) Court and others have left. Others have faded away like Purgatory Tower and The_WAVAM_Project. Most everyone else is posting at about half or less of what they were posting.
A lot of the last generation of artists have given up and/or moved on too. I have like 50 comics favorited and only like 5 of them have updated in the last month (and I haven't really had the time to start reading any new comics lately.) Most people who stopped updating on DD stopped talking on the forums too,
skoolmunkeeFor me, it's the opposite. I can't find a job, so I need the hobby to keep me sane and make me feel like I'm productive and have some value. Nothing is more soul-crushing than week after week of constant rejection (not just for money but for being a contributing member of society).
The economy thing is interesting. I wonder how many people are finding out that comics just don't pay?
skoolmunkeeThat wasn't what I meant. I'm not doing my comic here for an income. My comic is a hobby and I don't have time or money for hobbies right now. I either need to be at my day job, or getting new skills for my next day job.
The economy thing is interesting. I wonder how many people are finding out that comics just don't pay?
usedbooks
For me, it's the opposite. I can't find a job, so I need the hobby to keep me sane and make me feel like I'm productive and have some value. Nothing is more soul-crushing than week after week of constant rejection (not just for money but for being a contributing member of society).
Hyena H_llHah! You've become a new regular. :)
Also: I feel super lame because since I joined up, I'm always on here. Always. It's sad.
skoolmunkeeAs long as the site's got Pinky TA, we'll be jussssssssst fine ;)
The loss of established comics does sort of reduce the brand image
kingofsnake
Most people who stopped updating on DD stopped talking on the forums too, and if new people are apprehensive of jumping in on the forums, well…
Ochitsukanai
it's just hard to try involving oneself where people are good friends and in cliques and such.
OchitsukanaiActually, when I first joined the forums, I didn't want to post anywhere because I felt like I would be intruding. When I finally got brave and joined a thread or two, it sucked me in. People don't ignore “newcomers” here. They are very quickly absorbed into the fray. People will read your posts and respond to you. You're one of us now…kingofsnakeI felt that way. It isn't that the forums aren't welcoming, it's just hard to try involving oneself where people are good friends and in cliques and such. However, it looks like people who do try don't have trouble, so it likely wouldn't be an issue for anyone who isn't generally shy. Doesn't seem like that should be a problem that would affect forum traffic, right? It would only affect people who are naturally less likely to post in the first place!
Most people who stopped updating on DD stopped talking on the forums too, and if new people are apprehensive of jumping in on the forums, well…
Ironscarf
Hey, I know I guy - the three of us could get a little clique going.
usedbooks
Actually, when I first joined the forums, I didn't want to post anywhere because I felt like I would be intruding.
OchitsukanaiIronscarfThis could be just the unsavory-sounding opportunity I've been looking for, so long as everyone is dressed as Victorian era dandies.
Hey, I know I guy - the three of us could get a little clique going.
ozoneocean
Hah! You've become a new regular.
We love regulars ^_^
OchitsukanaiI can't tell you how many times I type out a lengthy and carefully constructed post and as I go to hit “Send” I stop and decide to X out my browser instead. I still do that. It isn't just a newbie thing.
Yeah, that's exactly it. Since forums always have groups, it doesn't make sense to think that way, but it doesn't mean the general feeling of awkwardness doesn't persist for a while even if a place is friendly. There must be other people like that who lurk, think about things to say, and never say anything.
usedbooksI never used to do that. I do it now though.
I can't tell you how many times I type out a lengthy and carefully constructed post and as I go to hit “Send” I stop and decide to X out my browser instead. I still do that. It isn't just a newbie thing.
Hyena H_ll
o_0 !
I want in on that!
usedbooks
I can't tell you how many times I type out a lengthy and carefully constructed post and as I go to hit “Send” I stop and decide to X out my browser instead. I still do that. It isn't just a newbie thing.
freefall_driftYou may not be trying to get some income from your comics, but lots of other people do- through ads, donations, cafepress stuff, etc. With less disposable income I imagine ‘support my favorite webcomics’ becomes drastically less important than ‘make sure I don’t go hungry'. It would be interesting to see a graph of average ad cost on project wonderful over time, or something. I bet there's just not as much money in the system as there was a year ago.skoolmunkeeThat wasn't want I meant. I'm not doing my comic here for an income. My comic is a hobby and I don't have time or money for hobbies right now. I either need to be at my day job, or getting new skills for my next day job.
The economy thing is interesting. I wonder how many people are finding out that comics just don't pay?
I think more of us are in that predicament with less time for our art.
ozoneoceanI do that too. Other reasons I decide not to post: I wasn't really saying much or adding anything.
Ha! I don't discard thread replies for that reason. I just see that I write too much or see that it's needlessly negative so I decide ultimately that the forums are better off without those contributions of mine. :)
Skullbie
I made the forums my homepage months ago, it became routine and now i check through several times a day for new thread posts. So don't worry Hyena you'll never get as lame as me :) god help you if you are.
Plus i recently started setting up a site with wordpress, and even despite the hurdles learning it, it's clear to see why people leave free hosting forever. For one thing:
1. you don't have to scroll down that ugly DD top bar w/ ads to see the comic page
2.it's empowering to have your own site you can do anything you desire to
3.Widgets!
4. you feel more…'professional'
Cons:
1. you have to pay for it
2.no community like DD :(
I'll need to make at least 3$ a week off ads (once i update again) so i can pay for hosting and have some left over for advertising