Unlike this website, I got banned for being eleven. And I worked extremely hard on my old comic. Cool community, but they refused to give me an archive of my work.

Not active enough on the forum to say how the community is on there. Maybe my time of being active on forums is over. I just kinda use it to host my comic. I was not aware of all this history though.

It wasn't till I took over and we all worked to get us back up that we became financially stable.- Backed by my own funds.

I believe it's important to keep a platform available for seasoned / new creators who may not have options available to them. That's why I continue to spend money on ads whenever I can to give a little bit of support.

hey! i've recently made an account on comicfury, and all this stuff i'm hearing about it is really scary. i want to post my comics how i'd like to with no non-constructive criticism. should i deactivate my account?

paneltastic wrote:

It wasn't till I took over and we all worked to get us back up that we became financially stable.- Backed by my own funds.

I believe it's important to keep a platform available for seasoned / new creators who may not have options available to them. That's why I continue to spend money on ads whenever I can to give a little bit of support.

Awwww thankyou!!

cookiesketches3 wrote:
should i deactivate my account?

Definitley not! Keep your comic on there and see if it does well ^_^
You never know, the community could be a good fit or the hosting could be great for getting new fans :)

The stuff people have written here are their own personal experiences, it doesn't mean ComicFury is bad haha! There will be people who have the same stories about Drunk Duck LOL!

cookiesketches3 wrote:
hey! i've recently made an account on comicfury, and all this stuff i'm hearing about it is really scary. i want to post my comics how i'd like to with no non-constructive criticism. should i deactivate my account?

Don't let these people scare you off comicfury, they're blowing things wildly out of proportion because they broke rules and are pretending they did nothing wrong. Or, they couldn't stand people having different lifestyles from them, they're used to bullying queer kids without consequence on the other social media sites they frequent and it's a nasty wake-up call when a community doesn't put up with that. So sad.

The mods work very hard to moderate the site and keep people from fighting– it is completely unfair to say the CF of the early days is the same as CF today. Kyo and the other mods are good folks and are genuinely trying their best with a large community. (Also fyi Kyo's site design was copying Smackjeeves, not Drunk Duck– it was almost a clone of SJ)

And yes in reference to Lemonade's comment, young children will get banned because not only was that in the TOS that members need to be a certain age, but they're trying to keep children safe; there have been incidents in the past with sexual predators trying to prey on children where they needed to take action and intercede and ban people from the site.

This is why they have 0 tolerance for “it's just a joke” excuses when it comes to some of the weird “pedo jokes” that got certain folks in this thread banned. I'm sorry that I have to inform you of this but a LOT of people “joke” about being a child predator or fascist “ironically” up until it's not ironic at all. The distinction between someone who is genuinely not a predator and someone who is “just joking… unless?” is a blurrier than you think.

The times that they let those kinds of things slide and then later it turns out someone wasn't really joking and now there's a kid getting groomed by some creep, make it a situation where you do NOT extend infinite grace to people who are comfortable making that kind of joke in the first place.

And kids, you need to be CAREFUL about disclosing your actual age on the internet, that is not information you should be freely throwing out there.

I joined one of their community projects over there. It was a NSFW psychedelic themed zine. Most people seem chill and nice. I just tend to hang out over here at DD cuz I like it.

One thing I've noticed about CF is I'll get a lot more traffic over there but not nearly as many comments. I'm wondering if the hit tracker is just counting a lot of bot traffic or something.

Amelius is brutal but right. Do something worthy of being banned and you probably deserved it. I hated it at the time but all these years later I can see Kyo was right.


But I get investigated by the FBI every five years to renew my federal transportation worker identification credentials. I'm clean.

I coined a word in a science fiction story incels use to degrade women. How would you like that on your conscience? It was bloody science fiction. Almost certain that future incels frequented the action figure forum where the story first appeared. It's trivia I doubt anyone will remember like so many of the other people who coined terms.

Yeah, there's been some bot activity for a bit, some threads were noting that a while ago that their hits were wildly inconsistent and it was surmised there were bots hitting comics at random.

We're lucky we have you here, Lothar :D

People there are largely pretty chill and cool there yeah, every once in a while there's a small spat but that's expected when you have a lot of folks with different life experiences.

I've recently left a different forum that was actually bad– it has a rep for being so toxic in fact, that the Reddit for the same thing is actually friendlier. I had a really bad experience in that subreddit too, people are toxic af, and it still wasn't nearly as bad as that forum.
(It's for a game not comics)

I'm glad that neither CF nor Drunk Duck is anywhere near that bad.

Aw man ninja'd! Bravo, you're like one of the few guys I respect in this thread because you've come a long way on things and that's genuinely inspiring to see.
So many people dig their heels in when they get corrected, and it takes being the bigger man in some of those situations to be like “you know what? I screwed up. But I'm gonna do better”. A lot, a lot of people don't bother trying, and everyone else is the a-hole in their world, which gets smaller and smaller as they drive people away. I'm genuinely glad you're a part of DD's community.

Yeah it is brutally unfair your word got coopted like that!

**Edit, and just want to say I don't like having to be brutal but there's been like what, 4 different threads/conversations about CF and a bunch of the same guys lying out their rear-ends about why they got booted, like… I'd like to give people second chances but it's the lying I can't abide y'know? Nobody has to volunteer embarrassing info, it's just painting CF as some authoritarian hellhole that gets me. I would rather the 2 sites be friendly rivals– it's us against the Webtoons sites. Instead it's always a hater-fest whenever CF gets brought up. CF barely ever mentions DD meanwhile and almost never negatively when it does. It begins to feel like bitter exes coalesce here to complain while their former beau is at the club having fun.

Yeah, I don't know if I'm being included in that dig, I probably am, but while I obviously can't speak for anyone else's personal experiences but my own, I can emphatically state for the record that nothing I have said about my own personal experiences with CF have been lies, nor blown out of proportion; it all happened exactly as I have described, and again, I can speak for nobody else but myself. I have even said, as Bravo and Amelius have pointed out, that while yes, I was upset and bitter about what happened at the time, I do fully understand why Kyo responded the way he did, even when I spoke with him privately about my banishment, and he was rather civilized and professional about everything (like I say, this was long before I learned about any of the skeletons he had in his own closet). Yes, as I said, I did attempt to reason with him, and offer to work out a compromise, he would not budge in the slightest, but I am fully aware I brought all of that on myself with my unacceptable behavior - it was a lesson learned the hard way, but a lesson learned nonetheless.

Again, I can't speak for anybody else, and whether or not they are lying about and/or blowing their own experiences out of proportion is something that only they can admit to, but I've lied about nothing, nor blown anything out of proportion regarding my situation with CF, nor the circumstances and consequences that were a result of said situation.

Amelius wrote:


Don't let these people scare you off comicfury, they're blowing things wildly out of proportion because they broke rules and are pretending they did nothing wrong. Or, they couldn't stand people having different lifestyles from them, they're used to bullying queer kids without consequence on the other social media sites they frequent and it's a nasty wake-up call when a community doesn't put up with that. So sad.

Painting people with a broad brush is a slippery slope to tread. It is very presumptuous to do a “one size fits all” accusation such as this.

I was not banned from CF. I was on it for a few years, got along fine with others, struck up some friendships, got involved in threads of interest, and ignore ones that I felt we’re or had the potential to become controversial. The beginning of my exit occurred when someone posted a very diplomatic, polite response in a thread of which he had an opposing opinion. Instantly he was mobbed by at least a half dozen other members making outlandish accusations about his beliefs and personal character. I contacted a mod about how I felt this lynching needed to be called out and was told “yeah I know I can’t doing anything…my hands are tied.”

The nail in the coffin was when I apologized for making a comment that I 1) didn’t see as offensive and 2) honestly felt I had no reason to apologize for. I apologized to keep peace in the family. I then received a DM from Kyo saying I shouldn’t make apologies that aren’t heartfelt.” So I apologize for something that I felt I had to reason to, and then get accused of being insincere??? At that point I gave Kyo a piece of my mind, deleted my account, and headed out the door.

I think as far as posting comics it’s a good site, easy to use, and the tech support is good too. My suggestion is be careful of their forum (or any forum on any site for that matter) and getting caught up in arguments. Hopefully it has changed in it's tone. I know these occurrences I experienced could have happened on any of the ten zillion forums out there so it's not something only CF was guilty of.

And on another note, I’ve never bullied anyone, gay, straight, trans, etc on any site. Someone’s race, sex, or sexual preference does not dictate if I do or don’t like someone. Being an asshole does.

@Machinehead: if you weren't banned and aren't lying, then it's not about you. I know for a fact what certain people were banned for. If you want to defend the guy who immediately came here and dropped racial slurs and antisemitic conspiracy theories after getting banned from CF for ironic pedo stuff, that's your prerogative.

What “diplomatic and polite” disagreement was it. Why are you people so fricking vague, have some spine and admit what it was people were disagreeing over that you needed to white knight for them.

I'll be specific about my less than stellar encounters. I got in an argument over whether MSG fearmongering is bad science and racially motivated (it is) and someone disagreed with me and the articles I linked. I chose not to push further and left the convo because it's pointless to further an argument when people brush away facts to what ultimately comes down to vibes.

I got in a disagreement over whether the word “TERF” is too harsh to use on transphobic people. Someone disagreed and said I should use another word. I did not agree with that at all, and bowed out of the conversation because it wasn't going to be productive as we were both on the same side of the issue– just with different approaches.

Your turn. What was the disagreement. Since it's your prime example. What opinion was this user defending so politely.

The thing is, outright Nazis use “polite, diplomatic” language to say the most horrendous things about people, it's literally the fricking MO.

“Right to comfort” is literally a pillar of White Supremacy. Not everyone's “opinion” has equal effing weight, or deserves to be platformed.

If someone is gay, you don't get an “opinion” that they're not, and that they don't deserve basic fricking human rights because of their sexual orientation.

If I go into a Dog forum and start listing off ways that dogs are the worst animal, I'm going to get hated in the thread for good reason and it'd be my own stupid fault. “Lynched” for god sake, that's so dramatic. It's a forum disagreement, nobody died.

IDGAF how “polite and diplomatic” someone is while spewing hateful, misinformed, wrong and stupid things.

Saying I'm painting with a sweeping brush is your assumption, dude. And considering you and others that chose to leave of your own accord are using crypto-fascist dogwhistles like “the message” to paint a specific picture of CF, I don't think I'm that far off on my “assumption”.

left leaning Borg horde

You forgot you left this on the previous page huh

I'm saying they try. You disagree? Fine! Even they admit there's a lot on their plate and they screw up on things once in a while.

The nail in the coffin was when I apologized for making a comment that I 1) didn’t see as offensive and 2) honestly felt I had no reason to apologize for.

I then received a DM from Kyo saying I shouldn’t make apologies that aren’t heartfelt.” So I apologize for something that I felt I had to reason to, and then get accused of being insincere???

honestly felt I had no reason to apologize for.

honestly felt I had no reason to apologize for.

So I apologize for something that I felt I had to reason to, and then get accused of being insincere???

LOL!!!! “He accused me of doing what I was doing, that's so unfair!!!”

DUDE that is the textbook definition of “insincere apology”. You're a hoot.
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@J-Scarbough: It's not a dig at you believe it or not, yours is one I'd say was more borderline– I do of course think you've chosen to sort of backslide from “I get it” to “It was just memes!” I wouldn't say you were lying, just enhancing truth a bit. My only issue with you is you keep posting that copypasta about zeitgeists and accusing sprite comics of theft, and that makes me genuinely annoyed. Sprite comics are transformative works– like your memes from cartoon screenshots.

Amelius wrote:

Don't let these people scare you off comicfury, they're blowing things wildly out of proportion because they broke rules and are pretending they did nothing wrong. Or, they couldn't stand people having different lifestyles from them, they're used to bullying queer kids without consequence on the other social media sites they frequent and it's a nasty wake-up call when a community doesn't put up with that. So sad.

You made the comment about people using the “it was just a joke” excuse, then you pull the “oh it wasn;t about you” card. This comment highly insinuates that anyone in this thread that made a critique about CF is guilty of your accusations.

So now I'm a fascist, racial slur condoning, pedo defending Nazi. You seem to know so much about everyone. Crystal ball?

I forgot nothing I posted. I said it (left leaning Borg horde) and I meant it. Funny how that is an insult but referring to me as a Nazi is acceptable.

Me saying “paint with a broad (not sweeping) brush” is an assumption but you spew one assumption after another. Talk about me being a hoot.

I like the “duck hunter” theory you use of commenting: if you throw enough lead up in the air, you will eventually hit something.

From what I see it's not about what someone has said, but what you wish they'd say so you can start an argument.

As far as giving you details about my experience, I owe you nothing. It would not matter what I said, even if you witnessed it, you'd twist it to meet your rant.

Thank you for making my point. I've wasted enough time with this. Maybe the others on here will accommodate you.

let's cool it please?

There's no reason to get in a fight. Absolutely none.

You're on DD, Be cool.

machineheadstudio

Amelius was speaking in generalities, you identified with the baddy in her scenario and drew her focus. She still hasn't accused you of anything, she's only commenting on what you've said.
We love you as a member here and I've never noticed you being politically controversial.

Amelius

Please cool down the tone a bit. I appreciate you and what you're saying, I'm glad of the advocacy for Comicfury and bringing balance to the discussion, it was needed. I like that you're speaking from experience.

But let's please not let things become what people were complaining about.

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I will lock this now because that's the safe way to go.
@Amelius @machineheadstudio that is no slight on either of you. From experience these things tend to spiral and feed on themselves and do a lot of damage before burning out so it's best to lock.