ozoneocean

I Am The 1337 Master
Pq bugs are getting worse…

What PQ bugs are those?

These

I Am The 1337 Master
Pq bugs are getting worse…

And lost posts are very annoying because I did some reading and I want to put out a book review today. It's on Wicked. (not that good a book at all but I did like the lameness in the play :D and the play itself)

Hey I liked that book >:/

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ozoneocean

I Am The 1337 Master
Pq bugs are getting worse…

What PQ bugs are those?

These

UGH. That old notification issue. Thank the gods I didn't get struck with that one this time. Last time that came up I was at -14 and counting.
I think someone had -25 at one stage.

To Ozone: Well I call em bugs cuz the bug me. I can't really explain but I keep getting old Pq's sent to me, ones that I've talked with someone and finished with. I don't know if he accidentally sent me it again but whatever, it bugs me.

To TGFM: I didn't like how the symbolism in the dreams/time clock dragon things didn't make any sense someimes and that he had to finish the entire book off without explaining some things and summarrizing every single little detail in five pages at the end too. It dragged on for 300 pages with nothing that interesting happening and then finished really quickly. All around it bored me but that is just my opinion, other people can like what they want (even if the book is CRAP).
:)

To PP: Heh, thought I was gonna skip you, didn't you? Never thought of sending myself a message…But right now I'd have to send 5.

Oh and…

I've seen worse bugs, sadly. One another forum site, for one week the posts kept going in reverse chronological order it started on the last page of the thread before the glitch. It made it hard to follow any conversations. We had to remake a lot of threads because the glitch was only on the old threads.

It would look like this.


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Ozoneocean
“Ironscarf” Said:

Ozoneocean Said:
“Ironscarf” Said:

I found the solution to losing posts - post somewhere else. Always found it a struggle to get any dialogue going here anyway.

Interesting advice. Unfortunately it sort of undermines what Skool and I are trying to do here- getting the site stable for the users so they'll stay because we like it here as much as them.

But, you do what you want.


If it was meant to be advice I would find an advice thread for it: this thread is for personal observations and opinions. If you want to take it as a personal attack - well that sort of demonstrates my point I suppose.

I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just thought that it was a rather disappointing attitude to take.

Coincidentally, the quoted text above and indeed these two sentences are actually a “dialogue”.

And also, by some quirk of fate, a struggle.

RAAAGE. i went to the peoples i lived at, and they gave me a slightly cheaper bill (only slightly) they did not include the deposit we never got back. i asked for an invoice, and it is the most generic thing ever:
Outside work: a million dollars
windows and screens: half a million
paint. on the walls. : quarter million
appliances: quarter million.
carpet:
etc…

so yeah. i've asked for a detailed billing. oh, and when i asked if that if the deposit would be applied the response was “oh, you won't get that back, because it goes towards damages.” “well why isn't it on the invoice?” and then some mumbling replies. “boss isn't in, i'll have him call you.”

ozoneocean
The trouble is that it's not a crash, a bug, or an unfortunate error of any kind.

Those site white-outs were deliberate:
The programmer is working on moving across the last of the old services from the old server. Then he shuts off the old server to see if he got them all… then the site goes down. Then he turns it back on again and all the stuff we posted a little while before is gone.

I'm not sure if that's exactly what's happening. Considering that some of the outtages seem to have happened in the middle of the night, I have a hard time imagining the programmer hard at work doing this at 2am on Saturday. Could be the case, but I would guess it's something a little less deliberate. It could be related to the nightly maintenance or something.

skoolmunkee

ozoneocean
The trouble is that it's not a crash, a bug, or an unfortunate error of any kind.

Those site white-outs were deliberate:
The programmer is working on moving across the last of the old services from the old server. Then he shuts off the old server to see if he got them all… then the site goes down. Then he turns it back on again and all the stuff we posted a little while before is gone.

I'm not sure if that's exactly what's happening. Considering that some of the outtages seem to have happened in the middle of the night, I have a hard time imagining the programmer hard at work doing this at 2am on Saturday. Could be the case, but I would guess it's something a little less deliberate. It could be related to the nightly maintenance or something.

MAybe trying to do it without annoying so many people? Or me I guess. :)

Im having no problems with the site what so ever. :).

My monitor is failing :(

I have about 5 days to scrape about 20 euro together (I think that's like 25-30$ right now?) to still manage to buy the used 17inch crt monitor (with 1 year warranty). Problem: I won't have any money for at least couple of weeks.

Well, what's wrong with this one, you may ask? Oh not much… it just has colors that are totally off, “failing brightness” (meaning it is getting gradually darker) and couple of other issues.
The more white on screen, the yellower everything looks like. The more black, the more purple/violet tint shows on the edges of every thing. If either white or black dominate the screen for too long, I get odd discolorations lasting a second or two and… since yesterday… the image is getting all wobbly and starts to shake.

I can't work in these conditions :(

Still have about 9 pages in the buffer (so that's 4 and a half week of updates), but I can't make the next story under these conditions.

I'd need to sell at least 5 or 6 sets of sketchbooks to be able to afford a new screen and I even sold one today (which finally got me out of the red in my finances) but I don't know if I'll make it in time :(

Shit, even this field I'm typing my post in right now causes the screen to wobble, too much white.

*goes to sulk in the corner cause he exhausted all the local options of getting money already*

Ugh… a bit of stress at work. Some drunkard went to the bar at the building I was watching… at 3AM!!! He demanded that the door be opened so he can buy drinks, but he was staggardly drunk and refused to budge when I told him that the bar was closed (all bars and other such establishments cannot be open or be serving beer after 2AM, and stores can't be selling the stuff either). I had to call the police to get rid of him and what does he do? He starts fighting the police. He didn't want to leave until he got more drinks from a bar that's closed. Jeez…

Cue the reports and the freely flowing red ink that follows. I hope I don't get called into court as an eyewitness to this guys antics (he tried to kick the cop in the crotch and attempted to kick out the police car window after he was stuffed inside). I hope I never have to do that again anytime soon. T_T

Ironscarf
And also, by some quirk of fate, a struggle.

That sounds sexual. >.>

skoolmunkee

ozoneocean
The trouble is that it's not a crash, a bug, or an unfortunate error of any kind.

Those site white-outs were deliberate:
The programmer is working on moving across the last of the old services from the old server. Then he shuts off the old server to see if he got them all… then the site goes down. Then he turns it back on again and all the stuff we posted a little while before is gone.

I'm not sure if that's exactly what's happening. Considering that some of the outtages seem to have happened in the middle of the night, I have a hard time imagining the programmer hard at work doing this at 2am on Saturday. Could be the case, but I would guess it's something a little less deliberate. It could be related to the nightly maintenance or something.

Well We've had an apology and a full explanation now.
It had to do with the programmer copying across the data from the old database (whileit was in use), and errors resulting from things not properly copying across.

It's apparently all over now.

So I thought I would be going to Vancouver to look at campuses for a few days over spring break but I don't know what the heck is happening now, apparently my sister doesn't want me to come? My dad thought maybe he could go with me at some other point, but my mom said NO. Apparently no one cares about my future. :(

ozoneocean

Ironscarf
And also, by some quirk of fate, a struggle.

That sounds sexual. >.>

No it doesn't…

Hippie Van

ozoneocean

Ironscarf
And also, by some quirk of fate, a struggle.

That sounds sexual. >.>

No it doesn't…

I think implied rape.

She's so very innocent.

It's a Canadian thing. They're beautiful people.

I really wish I knew an Irishman or two so I could ask them questions. Trying to figure out what constitutes stereotypical Irish versus obscurely Irish is a real pain in the ass. I mean, obviously 4 leaf clovers, leprechauns, Celtic knot work, pots of gold, that kind of stuff is unsuitable, but I have no idea if stuff like Fin McCool or the Giant's Causeway is too obscure. Hell, just trying to discern the differences between Irish, Scottish and the stuff that is Anglo/Roman influenced is weird. I still can't figure out what the hell the difference between Scottish and Irish bagpipes is. I'm not even touching on sheep for this. That subject is clearly a Welsh thing.

Canadians = Americans - perversion + general politeness + cold tolerance. I don't remember who it was I know who came up with that one, but I do remember that they were themselves a Canadian.

lba
Canadians = Americans - perversion + general politeness + cold tolerance. I don't remember who it was I know who came up with that one, but I do remember that they were themselves a Canadian.

lol! :)

Fin is Scottish as far as I know. His two nephews were turned into Hunting dogs; Bran and Skewlan (?), the finest hunting dogs in the world… Two companions of his are Conan the Bald and Jernit of the love spot. :)

…I got that all from a song/story by John Renbourne ^_^

ozoneocean
Fin is Scottish as far as I know. His two nephews were turned into Hunting dogs; Bran and Skewlan (?), the finest hunting dogs in the world… Two companions of his are Conan the Bald and Jernit of the love spot. :)

…I got that all from a song/story by John Renbourne ^_^

I remember a story about Fin. It was about this “Salmon of Knowledge” that he helped an old man to catch. To his surprise, the old man told him that while he (the old man) was destined to catch it, Fin would be the guy to eat the thing. And it goes from there I think…

A thread about our local heroic legends…. now that sounds like an interesting thread to create… :)

Lonnehart

ozoneocean
Fin is Scottish as far as I know. His two nephews were turned into Hunting dogs; Bran and Skewlan (?), the finest hunting dogs in the world… Two companions of his are Conan the Bald and Jernit of the love spot. :)

…I got that all from a song/story by John Renbourne ^_^

I remember a story about Fin. It was about this “Salmon of Knowledge” that he helped an old man to catch. To his surprise, the old man told him that while he (the old man) was destined to catch it, Fin would be the guy to eat the thing. And it goes from there I think…

A thread about our local heroic legends…. now that sounds like an interesting thread to create… :)

We already had a thread like that.

Heh.
Wiki reckons Finn is Irish but mentioned in Scottish myth…
All I've heard about him he was in Scottish myth, as a great hero. And the song/story was by Robin Williamson, silly me. He was playing with John Renbourne at the time though.

lba
Hell, just trying to discern the differences between Irish, Scottish and the stuff that is Anglo/Roman influenced is weird. I still can't figure out what the hell the difference between Scottish and Irish bagpipes is. I'm not even touching on sheep for this. That subject is clearly a Welsh thing.

I think traditionally Irish bagpipes used a foot pump or something,…? Now I can't recall if that was to fill them (instead of blowing in), or if that's to keep the pressure on (instead of squeezing the bag with your elbow).

The Celtic harp is one of the most iconic Irish symbols. And of course Guinness beer or Kilkenny Ale. They're well known but not rubbish cliches like shamrocks and leprechauns.
So you're looking for national symbols? There's their flag, their football/soccer team, Horses (they breed fantastic racehorses), U2, Aer Lingus…

If you want contemporay stuff you could always read a current Irish newspaper online ;)

whiskey, redheads, potatoes, fighters, short & stocky, beards, catholic.

i think those cover most the stereotypical irish genre's. except for the women.
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I slept well last night…..too well.

(kinda like, it's quiet here, too quiet)

ozoneocean
We already had a thread like that.

Was it that thread I made about those legendary gods and such?

I was thinking of a thread about heroes like Hercules, Beowolf(spelling?), King Arthur, Chief Gadao(the most powerful legendary chief on Guam), etc… And the adventures they had. :)

ozoneocean
Heh.
Wiki reckons Finn is Irish but mentioned in Scottish myth…
All I've heard about him he was in Scottish myth, as a great hero. And the song/story was by Robin Williamson, silly me. He was playing with John Renbourne at the time though.

lba
Hell, just trying to discern the differences between Irish, Scottish and the stuff that is Anglo/Roman influenced is weird. I still can't figure out what the hell the difference between Scottish and Irish bagpipes is. I'm not even touching on sheep for this. That subject is clearly a Welsh thing.

I think traditionally Irish bagpipes used a foot pump or something,…? Now I can't recall if that was to fill them (instead of blowing in), or if that's to keep the pressure on (instead of squeezing the bag with your elbow).

The Celtic harp is one of the most iconic Irish symbols. And of course Guinness beer or Kilkenny Ale. They're well known but not rubbish cliches like shamrocks and leprechauns.
So you're looking for national symbols? There's their flag, their football/soccer team, Horses (they breed fantastic racehorses), U2, Aer Lingus…

If you want contemporay stuff you could always read a current Irish newspaper online ;)

Yeah, Fin is Irish, but he's the crossover between Irish and Scottish culture with the tale of the giant's causeway in Ireland and Fin's Cave in Scotland.

Here, the harp is as bad a stereotype as the shamrock and beer or other alcohol is not allowed since this is for a family event, but the flag and other stuff is something I think I'm going to look into. Thanks for the ideas.

It's a poster for Irishfest, which is an international event on it's 30th year, meaning a crap load of scrutiny over accuracy and a massive pressure from the organizers to come up with new ideas that will stand the test of time. Plus, I'm supposed to avoid all identifiable famous people, avoid specific family or team colours if I do something like a Celtic dance group, for various reasons including copyright and not featuring one group over another. These people are incredibly picky, which is why I'm having so much difficulty with coming up with ideas that will be accurate, original and non-stereotypical, yet still accessible enough for casual visitors to the festival. The list of things I have to avoid is longer than the list of stuff I can cover. Oddly enough, the 30th anniversary logo, contains both a shamrock and a leprechaun if I remember right.

Jernit of the love spot, eh? Sounds like a hell of a name to earn yourself. I could have so much fun with that. Too bad this is an all ages event. lol!

lba
Here, the harp is as bad a stereotype

Really? It's one of their most famous and treasured national symbols- since it's not just iconic, but a symbol of art and culture.

I think I'd go for some customised knotwork anyway. That's easy and realy fun the create. It works great as part of decorative motifs…

lba
Jernit of the love spot, eh? Sounds like a hell of a name to earn yourself. I could have so much fun with that. Too bad this is an all ages event.

Heh. Apparently Jernit had a mark on his face and he had to keep it covered with his hat because if any woman saw it she'd fall passionately in love with him. He was the greatest hunter in all the land, but he'd never hunt wild boar… lol!

You can listen to that great little track here:

http://www.we7.com/#/track/Finn-And-The-Old-Mans-House-Story-Recorded-Live-at-Old-Town-School-of-Folk-Music-!trackId=70320&m=0

Yeah, I was thinking of using the neolithic swirls and lozenges from the old tombs and stuff as a decorative element, I just need a good concept to put it in. I might just go all Art Nouveau on this deal.

I've been told to avoid the harp because it is so iconic. It's too easy to screw up and get it wrong. Plus, they're terrified it might be mistaken for the Guinness logo. Apparently somebody believes that native Milwaukee residents have some form of mild beer-autism wherein they must relate everything to alcohol.

That is a pretty kickass track. I might have to go looking for more stuff like that. Old stories always give me ideas.

lba
I really wish I knew an Irishman or two so I could ask them questions.

I'm not much help, but I think Blarney Castle is a famous landmark (though perhaps too closely related to the Blarney Stone). There's also the celtic cross that you see on gravestones (too grim? too religious?); there are celtic symbols with trees and fish and things; the triskelle; the crowned heart and hands thingy (also related I think to ‘fisher kings’); Irish stone circles; there are some famous archaeological stones with lots of swirlies and stuff carved in them. There's also a club-thing but I think that is kind of controversial. I can't comment on the stereotypicalness of them though.

You might also look up irish folk songs/folklore, those might have some iconic characters. Good folk songs, not stereotypical ones like Danny Boy.

Site seems to be behaving better. Haven't seen any disappearing posts or pages since Monday.

Still stuck with that annoying +1 bug at my PQ notifier though. Kinda annoying. Always makes me want to go check my messages.

Yep, I'm so naive cos hearing the word struggle doesn't immediately make me think of rape. lol


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Man, I start out every semester thinking “Okay, I'm really going to apply myself this time! I'll study every night, and do my best on every piece of homework”.
And then by the second week I decide a better goal is to try to avoid a nervous breakdown.

lba
I really wish I knew an Irishman or two so I could ask them questions. Trying to figure out what constitutes stereotypical Irish versus obscurely Irish is a real pain in the ass. I mean, obviously 4 leaf clovers, leprechauns, Celtic knot work, pots of gold, that kind of stuff is unsuitable, but I have no idea if stuff like Fin McCool or the Giant's Causeway is too obscure. Hell, just trying to discern the differences between Irish, Scottish and the stuff that is Anglo/Roman influenced is weird. I still can't figure out what the hell the difference between Scottish and Irish bagpipes is. I'm not even touching on sheep for this. That subject is clearly a Welsh thing.

what about the hill of tara? it's an anicent sacred burial ground that's older then the pryamids. there's druid rituals still being conducted there and it's 100% irish.

I was just digging through the wiki for the hill of tara about 10 minutes ago. I might work something from it in. More likely I'm going to end up just tossing a bunch of celtic decorative elements onto a half-related image to make it related.

Thanks for all the help guys. You've all given me some really awesome ideas and stuff to work from.