leaderofstarsI'm inclined to this as well. We're nowhere nearly certain in figuring out who killed either person. Maybe if the clues are good enough in the next round can we figure out who both killers are and have a double lynch.
lets avoid lynching people on the first day

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at 9:52AM, March 23, 2009
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harkovast
at 9:54AM, March 23, 2009
Blitz still looks guilty to me, and the whole idea that the police chief is mafia involves such a complex web of lies on behalf of the mafia (and stupidity on the half of the real police chief) that it is frankly too silly to deal with.
Two suspects….PP and Blitz.
PP has been proved not guilty by the police chief….
Seems to make things pretty clear…..
Two suspects….PP and Blitz.
PP has been proved not guilty by the police chief….
Seems to make things pretty clear…..

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Ozoneocean
at 9:55AM, March 23, 2009
Product Placementonly over the Claudius thing. :P
:mad: Are you calling me a moron?
NicceaIt's a nice variation. :)
I prefer the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.
AghammerExactly what I've been saying!
Also, keep in mind that some of the “flavor” text
Can we postpone the lynchings?
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Aghammer
at 9:57AM, March 23, 2009
I agree. Crocty believes in the police cap. and I belief, based on his play so far, that Crocty is NOT mafia. Therefore, PP is cleared of the kills for today.
harkovast
Blitz still looks guilty to me, and the whole idea that the police chief is mafia involves such a complex web of lies on behalf of the mafia (and stupidity on the half of the real police chief) that it is frankly too silly to deal with.
Two suspects….PP and Blitz.
PP has been proved not guilty by the police chief….
Seems to make things pretty clear…..
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at 10:01AM, March 23, 2009
ozoneoceanI'm sorry but that's intolerably rude. I based that theory on what stars just said and I made it perfectly clear that I wasn't familiar with the death of Yorick.Product Placementonly over the Claudius thing. :P
:mad: Are you calling me a moron?
I don't know how the hierarchy of insults work in Australia but doubting ones intellect is a bad one where I'm from. A punch in the face bad.
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Blitzkrieg1701
at 10:02AM, March 23, 2009
leaderofstars
lets avoid lynching people on the first day
See, that's what I would say even if my head WASN'T on the chopping block. The only leads we have right now are EXTREMELY flimsy, and killing ANY innocent townie would only help the Mafia along. Now, if we had some REAL clues at this point, that would be different…
Oh, and for the record, it's “he” not “she” (apparently, the facial hair on my avatar is kind of hard to see)
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Ozoneocean
at 10:05AM, March 23, 2009
I believe that Crocty isn't mafia, but how do we know the police cheif is really the police chief?
When I was mayor the first time, Skool told me she was the paranoid. Much later gullas came and told me that he was the paranoid. And because of certain clues and things during the game I believed that Skool was the real one and Gullas was fake.
I don't doubt the mafia would try tricks like that.
And Hark's blind instance that Blitz MUST be the killer even though we've all shown how his “clue” connects everyone to waff's murder in the same way indicates to me that Hark is either mad, up to his old tricks of playing the crazy man, or he's the actual killer?
-I DON'T think he's the killer BTW.
When I was mayor the first time, Skool told me she was the paranoid. Much later gullas came and told me that he was the paranoid. And because of certain clues and things during the game I believed that Skool was the real one and Gullas was fake.
I don't doubt the mafia would try tricks like that.
And Hark's blind instance that Blitz MUST be the killer even though we've all shown how his “clue” connects everyone to waff's murder in the same way indicates to me that Hark is either mad, up to his old tricks of playing the crazy man, or he's the actual killer?
-I DON'T think he's the killer BTW.
Product PlacementAnd it's rude that you didn't acknowledge what I told you about Claudius not being the killer (TWICE), which is why I said that was moronic reasoning. So I think we're one for one.
I'm sorry but that's intolerably rude
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leaderofstars
at 10:06AM, March 23, 2009
ya'll think my theory is a stretch well i don't jump from the beginning to suspect then fill the middle with bull. i move from beginning to suspects like a real investigator. so what if my theory has to suspects at least there would be egg on my face if one is innocent
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at 10:07AM, March 23, 2009
I'm gonna change my vote to “no lynch” if that's possible. If “no lynch” gets more votes then the prime suspect I say we skip it for this day.
How's that for a new law, Baron?
How's that for a new law, Baron?
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Blitzkrieg1701
at 10:13AM, March 23, 2009
And if not, our friendly neighborhood pardoner could always go to work.
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crocty
at 10:13AM, March 23, 2009
ozoneoceanHe told me information that only me and the captain knew.
I believe that Crocty isn't mafia, but how do we know the police cheif is really the police chief?
When I was mayor the first time, Skool told me she was the paranoid. Much later gullas came and told me that he was the paranoid. And because of certain clues and things during the game I believed that Skool was the real one and Gullas was fake.
I have no doubt that who I'm talking to is the captain.
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Aghammer
at 10:14AM, March 23, 2009
Well, while I don't think we have any “smoking guns” (heh) with any of the clues if that becomes a new law .. all of the mafia will vote for it every single day :)
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I'm gonna change my vote to “no lynch” if that's possible. If “no lynch” gets more votes then the prime suspect I say we skip it for this day.
How's that for a new law, Baron?
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Ozoneocean
at 10:17AM, March 23, 2009
Well in that case Crocty… with so many clues pointing to PP and you say he's 100% NOT the killer, I have no one to vote for.
My vote stands: I vote to lynch myself.
Barron has it, I PQed him ages ago.
—-
And now I'm going to bed, G'night, it's 2 am here. -_-
My vote stands: I vote to lynch myself.
Barron has it, I PQed him ages ago.
—-
And now I'm going to bed, G'night, it's 2 am here. -_-
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at 10:17AM, March 23, 2009
ozoneoceanIn what fantasy land do you live in? I did acknowledge what you said. We wrote our responses at the same time so I didn't see what you said until after I was done posting my hypothesis. I then went on to edit my post to respond to yours.
And it's rude that you didn't acknowledge what I told you about Claudius not being the killer (TWICE), which is why I said that was moronic reasoning. So I think we're one for one.
My second post then states: Even if Yorick was not killed by Claudius…
In all seriousness, I DEMAND an apology from you.
AghammerHmm… you're right about that. Although I guess if someone's constantly pushing the no lynch button, he'll be incriminating himself. Even today the mafia manipulates the votes by voting for someone who's innocent.
Well, while I don't think we have any “smoking guns” (heh) with any of the clues if that becomes a new law .. all of the mafia will vote for it every single day :)
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Blitzkrieg1701
at 10:20AM, March 23, 2009
Actually, having just looked back to the start of the game…
…so even if it's The People voting against it, a “no lynch” option would be violating the rules. It looks like my only hope now is some major mercy from the pardoner.
the rules
The mayor can not call off a lynch, there will be a lynch everyday
…so even if it's The People voting against it, a “no lynch” option would be violating the rules. It looks like my only hope now is some major mercy from the pardoner.
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Ozoneocean
at 10:24AM, March 23, 2009
Product PlacementFantasy land? You posted AFTER me, I didn't see any edit that solved things, that so called edit just went one with the previous stuff.
In all seriousness, I DEMAND an apology from you.
I demand you stop being a dick.
Good night
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leaderofstars
at 10:28AM, March 23, 2009
what if blitz is someone we need. the past tells us that the first day lynching always get someone we need. and those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
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at 10:28AM, March 23, 2009
ozoneoceanProduct PlacementFantasy land? You posted AFTER me, I didn't see any edit that solved things, that so called edit just went one with the previous stuff.
In all seriousness, I DEMAND an apology from you.
I demand you stop being a dick.
Good night
What are you talking about? I did edit my post. Look at the time of both posts. They're from the same minute. Your post wasn't there when I started writing mine. I couldn't take your post into consideration because it wasn't there to be read as I made it.
I'm not gonna let this go away. I'm actually angry at you.
leaderofstarsIt's a certain risk indeed. However, if he's someone important, I'm sure Crocty would try to protect him. Crocty did go out in trying to figure out all the important roles so he could co-ordinate their efforts.
what if blitz is someone we need. the past tells us that the first day lynching always get someone we need. and those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
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leaderofstars
at 10:30AM, March 23, 2009
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at 10:41AM, March 23, 2009
Well it's obvious that we're pushing each other buttons at the moment. I apologize for my outburst as it's not in the spirit of the game. Oz and I are talking now through PQ's so we won't bother you with this.
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crocty
at 10:45AM, March 23, 2009
well, I'm not the only one who's realised this:
This day has gone for three days.
We have a time bender on the mafia's side, and the votes for Blitz would mean that he would die at the end of the day.
Time bender…Extra day…Blitz due for lynching…
Uhhh…
This day has gone for three days.
We have a time bender on the mafia's side, and the votes for Blitz would mean that he would die at the end of the day.
Time bender…Extra day…Blitz due for lynching…
Uhhh…
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leaderofstars
at 10:47AM, March 23, 2009
croctyhahahahahahaha!
well, I'm not the only one who's realised this:
This day has gone for three days.
We have a time bender on the mafia's side, and the votes for Blitz would mean that he would die at the end of the day.
Time bender…Extra day…Blitz due for lynching…
Uhhh…
now you get it?
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crocty
at 10:49AM, March 23, 2009
Sorry, I'm not as informed about the time bender.
Would you like to fill me in?
That was a seriously smug response. I'm not just saying this because I hate smug people, but it's almost like you're saying that because you want to outright state you knew that before.
Like a “I'm smarter than you because I already knew this”.
Now, how would you know this already~?
Would you like to fill me in?
That was a seriously smug response. I'm not just saying this because I hate smug people, but it's almost like you're saying that because you want to outright state you knew that before.
Like a “I'm smarter than you because I already knew this”.
Now, how would you know this already~?
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Blitzkrieg1701
at 10:49AM, March 23, 2009
EDIT: …IS there a time bender? I see no mention of one at the start of the thread, but there is much I don't underdstand.
Oh well, I gave up all hope of living a while ago anyway. Go ahead, feel free lynch me and feel stupid afterward.
Oh well, I gave up all hope of living a while ago anyway. Go ahead, feel free lynch me and feel stupid afterward.
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leaderofstars
at 10:50AM, March 23, 2009
croctythe mafia can control time
Sorry, I'm not as informed about the time bender.
Would you like to fill me in?
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crocty
at 10:50AM, March 23, 2009
It's definitely not looking good for you now…
(Directed at Blitz)
You have proof that they can make days longer?
(Directed at Blitz)
leaderofstarsThey can end days early from what we saw.croctythe mafia can control time
Sorry, I'm not as informed about the time bender.
Would you like to fill me in?
You have proof that they can make days longer?
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at 10:51AM, March 23, 2009
Has it been three days?
I thought we “gained” and extra day because the night shift started early. I think that Baron intends to let each day/night cycle last approximately 24 hours. Since the mafia started the first night early it's caused a bleeding effect where the next day is longer to balance it. Either that or Baron's really shitty with a clock.
I thought we “gained” and extra day because the night shift started early. I think that Baron intends to let each day/night cycle last approximately 24 hours. Since the mafia started the first night early it's caused a bleeding effect where the next day is longer to balance it. Either that or Baron's really shitty with a clock.
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leaderofstars
at 10:52AM, March 23, 2009
Blitzkrieg1701i will defend you blitz pro bono
Really? …DANG IT!!! Even I'D vote for me now!
Oh well, I gave up all hope of living a while ago anyway. Go ahead, feel free lynch me and feel stupid afterward.
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crocty
at 10:53AM, March 23, 2009
Someone who knows more about the Hiro than the rest of us, protecting someone who the majority believe to be mafia?
Hmmm~
Hmmm~
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Niccea
at 10:53AM, March 23, 2009
-.- That is why I have proposed that “Time Bender” should be added to the ranks of roles to never be repeated.
And LoS is right about us invoking Vak's Law of Mafia Probability.
And LoS is right about us invoking Vak's Law of Mafia Probability.
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