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OH MY GOD! freaky monkey-human hybrids are coming

Niccea
Austrian monkey-human hybrids. They will be filming themselves on nature shows.

or we'll see them in a zoo or in a freak show, throwing poo and insult at people

WhoH WOh WOAH people. Skool doesn't mind our vigilante dying(if leadersofstars really is) and says she'll pardon spANG, a seemingly useless player, 95%?

The only logical explanation is Skool is a mafia trying to protect her fellow mafia spANG. :gem:

If skoolmunkee is not mafia I will be surprised.
I will also suspect our mayor of being mafia.

skullbie your point makes sense skull but i cant be sure i agree. we cant lynch skool unless the bodyguards die first.

bk
and also the protection of the very same bodyguards as the Mayor and thus remains invincible at night.

bk
cannot pardon themselves

Her bodyguards are only in effect at night, during the day she can be lynched.

so just lynch the monkey!

I believe what skool was saying earlier is that even if LOS survives the lynching (very likely with the tallies actually), he will be prime targets for mafias at night because he claims to be the vigilante. Why waste a pardon on someone that is drawing attention to themselves?

But, there is not a lot of evidence that would make anyone townie or mafia want to kill Spang. I think what she is thinking about is giving him a second chance to better prove himself.

She also said that she would look at pardoning anyone that comes up in the lynching. Remember she only has two pardons in this game. It would be a shame to waste them unless we were saving a very important role.

Of course this is my perspective on what is being said. I move my vote away from LOS because I believe he is the vigilante as claimed. I could be entirely wrong about what everyone is thinking.

Boy isnt it just like the condemned to try to turn the crowd.
I dont trust LoS now. That was a pretty bad thing to do.

BK add my vote for Leader of Stars!

odysseus55
Boy isnt it just like the condemned to try to turn the crowd.
I dont trust LoS now. That was a pretty bad thing to do.

BK add my vote for Leader of Stars!

Hey none of that! Let us go over the clues again one last time. It would be good if we have some better accord on who to vote for.

why do I keep getting ignored…:( is it 'cos I sleep in a box and pee in other peoples cars in this strange new world. but on the other hand not all of the points I make are all that good in terms of this forum. i think that lynching somebody (not just spAng or harkovast (sorry mate) or leaderofstars) whom we are 100% sure is mafia is a good idea.although a little detective work should be done before hand.

Nicea you have great points but the main thing that's suspicious is she's wasting a pardon on spANG, and she's 95% sure she'll use it.
She doesn't appear to be looking out for the townies at all.

Skullbie
Nicea you have great points but the main thing that's suspicious is she's wasting a pardon on spANG, and she's 95% sure she'll use it.
She doesn't appear to be looking out for the townies at all.

But what if SPaNG really is a townie? What was the evidence we brought up on him again? I can't even remember and it seemed flawed to me at the time.

Edit: Though my vote has been cast, I'm still considered up in the air. I was mostly worried about my time today.

But I have two and a half hours to think now (I will be at class during the announcement)

waff
why do i keep getting ignored… is it 'cos i sleep in a box and pee in other peoples cars in strange new world.

so your the reason big red's seats are wet, jerk

Skullbie
Nicea you have great points but the main thing that's suspicious is she's wasting a pardon on spANG, and she's 95% sure she'll use it.
She doesn't appear to be looking out for the townies at all.

Actually she said that she would pardon Spang or Los which ever was up for lynching. Personally I think it should be a double lynch.

What about it Mr. Mayor? Can we haz a double?

odysseus55

Skullbie
Nicea you have great points but the main thing that's suspicious is she's wasting a pardon on spANG, and she's 95% sure she'll use it.
She doesn't appear to be looking out for the townies at all.

Actually she said that she would pardon Spang or Los which ever was up for lynching. Personally I think it should be a double lynch.

I think I already told someone this. There is no double lynch today. That is a call ozone makes during the night.

waff
why do I keep getting ignored…:( is it 'cos I sleep in a box and pee in other peoples cars in this strange new world. but on the other hand not all of the points I make are all that good in terms of this forum. i think that lynching somebody (not just spAng or harkovast (sorry mate) or leaderofstars) whom we are 100% sure is mafia is a good idea.although a little detective work should be done before hand.

I apologize for ignoring your post. But yeah. But I'm not 100% sure on anything. Ask anyone.

can I auction my vote off? I haven't been swayed yet and I go to work at five so the accused have intill then to make a case. Or at least a better case then they have. Except Harkovast, whom I believe is just crazy.

leaderofstars
so your the reason big red's seats are wet, jerk

I'm only listening to my shoulder clown.

the2ndredbaron
can I auction my vote off? I haven't been swayed yet and I go to work at five so the accused have intill then to make a case. Or at least a better case then they have. Except Harkovast, whom I believe is just crazy.

Yeah I'm leaning towards “Harkovast is crazy” but I don't think he is the type of a guy I'd like to have my back.

Edit: And I'm in the Baron's position as well.

waff
I'm only listening to my shoulder clown.

you have one too

Will smith is my shoulder clown.

leaderofstars
you have one too

yep.

I explained my pardoning reasoning, if you don't understand it then that's your own problem. I can't make it any simpler.

For those of you who are all pissed off about the possibility of leaderofstars dying- then don't freaking vote to lynch him! It's in your hands guys. He's not in danger right now so I don't even understand what the problem is here. Start trying to convince those people who did vote to lynch leaderofstars to change their vote.

You should not want ANYONE to die unless you can be SURE they are mafia. As things are going now, no one seems sure Spang is mafia, just that he's ‘seemingly useless’ and ‘quiet’ and that makes him kind of sort of ‘suspicious’. So… that makes him worth lynching? As I've said, if you all decide to lynch Harkovast or someone else, I'll pardon them too. I'm not picky here. I just don't want people who are most likely townies to die.


Ozone asked me “as my mayor” before I even said ANY of that stuff the last few pages to pardon leaderofstars if he is lynched. He would have reason to save leaderofstars whether he was a townie mayor or a mafia one and there's not much use trying to guess which right now. The thing is, we don't know, you guys don't know, nobody knows. He and I both want someone saved- but he's picky and I'm not. But in my logic, in the atmosphere of so much doubt with such a CLEAR target, using up a pardon on someone who will die immediately seems a waste to me. And then do you know what Ozone did? He came into this thread and accused me of being mafia because “using my pardon at all” makes me suspicious. When he was the one who wanted me to use it! So I should pardon no one, and it would make you happy for a townie to die? I probably shouldn't have shared that he asked me to do that, but really, that pisses me off that it's okay to him if I use a pardon to save someone he wants- but if I don't, it's not the person I choose that makes me suspicious, it's that I use it at all? That is really a jackass thing to do after asking me yourself to use my pardon.

I had a couple of hours to stew about that.


OK, you know what? Fine. I won't use my pardon. No one gets pardoned. You all can just lynch Spang and see how right you are. Those who don't want anyone to be lynched can just not vote (like I intend) and/or lobby to get others to redact their votes. I'll just “look out for townies” by letting majority rule itself and you can lynch who you want tonight. That's cool with me because now I can turn off the computer earlier tonight.

what does it say waff?

skoolmunkee
And then do you know what Ozone did? He came into this thread and accused me of being mafia because “using my pardon at all” makes me suspicious. When he was the one who wanted me to use it! So I should pardon no one, and it would make you happy for a townie to die? I probably shouldn't have shared that he asked me to do that, but really, that pisses me off that it's okay to him if I use a pardon to save someone he wants- but if I don't, it's not the person I choose that makes me suspicious, it's that I use it at all? That is really a jackass thing to do after asking me yourself to use my pardon.

Okay I didn't know about that part at all skool, i'm sorry for riling you up.

Thank you skool for that stirring speech.

Now is everyone calm down enough to talk logically, or am I going to have to put someone in time out?

I just would like to point out one more thing.

If skool was mafia and was pardoning SPaNG because he was mafia. Couldn't our vigilante remedy the problem in the night?

Also, if SPaNg is mafia, I can think of one other person that could save him, so skoolmunkee's innocence is a mute point.

But I really don't want to kill Spang just too see what color his blood is.

my head hurts

Niccea
But I really don't want to kill Spang just too see what color his blood is.

That's another reason he was chosen, because he was a ‘safe’ target to lynch, as hark's, LOS and gasp's roles were fuzzy(Still are) He's not likely an important role and not really helping us townies by solving clues, seeing his role could lead to important clues :)

Skullbie

Niccea
But I really don't want to kill Spang just too see what color his blood is.

That's another reason he was chosen, because he was a ‘safe’ target to lynch, as hark's, LOS and gasp's roles were fuzzy(Still are) He's not likely an important role and not really helping us townies by solving clues, seeing his role could lead to important clues :)

Still doesn't feel right to me. But I guess I can just follow the torch and pitchforks and not get yelled at.