Lobo's giant gun from “Lobo: infanticide”
and this isn't even the giant gun, if you read the comic you know.
PS: “Lobo: infanticide” is exactly the same story of “Blue eyes samurai”, just told from another point of view.
Comic Talk and General Discussion *
What is your favourite weapon in fiction?
DeanZeeks
at 4:00AM, Aug. 21, 2024
I used to be completely obsessed with Roronoa Zoro's tanto sword from One Piece :) I thought my fan phase was behind me as I grew older, but recently I stumbled upon a tanto sword for sale by chance and ahhhhh, the sight of it instantly brought back all those nostalgic memories of the anime <3 I couldn’t resist, it felt like a perfect way to reconnect with that part of my past and so I got it, lol.
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ArrenMcStealsalot
at 8:48AM, Aug. 24, 2024
As someone who played a bit of Warhammer fantasy, I really like idea of having black powder pistol in fantasy inspired by late Medieval/Renaissance era. Having this one shot which can drop vampire or some deamon sounds really cool to me. But it's only one shot. It's not some wonder weapon which will carry you.
When I think about it, I always really liked idea of powerful items with limited number of uses in fiction.
When I think about it, I always really liked idea of powerful items with limited number of uses in fiction.
plymayer
at 5:25PM, Aug. 24, 2024
Guess I've never thought much about weapons. Probably swords are the most noble in television and movies. But in real life many people were left maimed or worse. They didn't let us have swords in the navy, except for ceremonial occasions.
Ozoneocean
at 8:36PM, Aug. 25, 2024
plymayer wrote:What was your ceremonial sword?
Guess I've never thought much about weapons. Probably swords are the most noble in television and movies. But in real life many people were left maimed or worse. They didn't let us have swords in the navy, except for ceremonial occasions.
For swords in fiction I love how Cloud's Buster sword looks in FF8, I wouldn't like to have one and I know it would be stupid in every way possible but I love how it looks in images when he's holding it.
Swords in fiction list:
-Conan's father sword and his Atlantean sword, and also Valleria's sword - from Conan Barbarian.
-The Dread Pirate Roberts sword and Inego Montoya's swords from The Prince Bride.
-Luke's light sabre from the first Star Wars movie.
-The Eldar striking scorpion chainswords and the powersword of the dire avenger exarch - from Warhammer 40k
bravo1102
at 1:40AM, Aug. 26, 2024
ArrenMcStealsalot wrote:That's something I also like. Sure, give someone an unstoppable weapon, they just can't use it much.
When I think about it, I always really liked idea of powerful items with limited number of uses in fiction.
I first read about a molecular blade in Hammer's Slammers. A blade a single molecule wide that cuts through anything because it slides through the empty space between atoms.
So I put one in my comic. Thing is it takes forever to recharge because the energy outlay for something like that is incredible.
You read about the real technology limitations to sci-fi weaponry and it's all heat generation and energy
consumption.
Like some of the things a light saber is shown doing would melt the wielder long before it got to anything else. And how can you power that beam weapon so it shoots so many bolts a second? How do you keep it from melting everything in sight?
Such high technology it's indistinguishable from magic.
So why not a super high technology weapon that looks like nothing so much as a Medieval sword? As good a configuration as anything else.
Why not a retro fashion fad where the highest tech hand weapons are styled after archaic weapons? Did that one too. Everyone is carrying what looks like flintlock but they are actually beamer pistols. It also makes coming up with props that much easier.
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DeanZeeks
at 7:00AM, Aug. 26, 2024
Giant swords are epic! I’ve always been a sucker for Cloud’s Buster Sword—it’s so iconic. But honestly, lightsabers from Star Wars are my personal favorite. There’s just something about the way they sound and glow that gets me every time. And yeah, the gunblade from Final Fantasy VIII is insane.
Ozoneocean
at 5:20PM, Aug. 26, 2024
DeanZeeks wrote:Right? They're fantastic and ONLY work in fiction, but they're so iconic ^_^
Giant swords are epic! I’ve always been a sucker for Cloud’s Buster Sword—it’s so iconic. But honestly, lightsabers from Star Wars are my personal favorite.
bravo1102 wrote:Yup. True in reality :(
That's something I also like. Sure, give someone an unstoppable weapon, they just can't use it much.
Given that I'd like to say that rotary cannons like the gun on an Avenger II (warthog to noobs), the Vulcan CIWS cannons on ships and rotary “mini guns” are fave fictional weapons.
(“Gatling” guns)
I say fictional because in reality those things have very specific and limited uses. Something like the cannon on the avenger 2 only has less than HALF a minute of total fire in reality (not even 30 seconds), but the fictional versions of them are amazing and unstoppable with unlimited ammunition XD
A little 7.62 minigun will only ever have a maxium load of 5000 rounds, but it's normally much less. Even with a massive load of 5000 that is less that a minute of fire.
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The fictional version of a “gatling” gun is a magic bullet-hose, and that sort of relates to the only real gatling gun which were the ones in the old west which were primitive machine guns designed for sustained fire.
No modern rotary gun is ever used like that though:
REAL non-fiction ones are only for quickly hitting a target with as much punch as possible in a fraction of a second, they're specialised for fast engagements only.
Despite having thousands of bullets you only get a few trigger pulls and then your fun is totally empty. Each shot is like 56 to a 100 or more bullets at a time, as a single shot basically.
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bravo1102
at 12:33AM, Aug. 27, 2024
Thing about guns on aircraft a lot of people don't realize is that they never had a lot of ammunition and had to be used sparingly. It was always short bursts and with some cannon, single shots. Some of the most successful fighter pilots were like hunters and only put one burst or even one round in the right place and not hose everything in sight.
That's a huge difference between fiction and reality. In reality you're usually trying to conserve ammunition and get the most for every round. But if you have lots of rounds to spare a good heavy barrage can soften a target but it's just as likely to give the defense a nice churned up mess of ground to hide in.
That's a huge difference between fiction and reality. In reality you're usually trying to conserve ammunition and get the most for every round. But if you have lots of rounds to spare a good heavy barrage can soften a target but it's just as likely to give the defense a nice churned up mess of ground to hide in.
dpat57
at 12:49AM, Aug. 27, 2024
Larry Niven short story, “The Soft Weapon”, a bunch of kzinti (think 2-meter tall orange tabby cats) take humans and a puppeteer as prisoners while they investigate a weird handheld alien device that can take on many forms at the touch of a button, including a powerful disruptor, and can also talk (it learns their language just by listening to their conversations… should have called the story “The Smart Weapon” if you ask me). The premise was adapted (by Niven himself) for "The Slaver Weapon" episode of Star Trek: The Animated Series.
Ozoneocean
at 1:32AM, Aug. 27, 2024
bravo1102 wrote:Reminds me of the use of machine guns in movies VS reality. In fiction they're unstoppable killing devices, while in reality it seems they're often used to keep people away from areas, stop them shooting back at you, and to funnel people into certain areas -(when used with sustained fire).
It was always short bursts and with some cannon
Killing shots are short bursts, not a hose.
dpat57 wrote:That reminds me of Tuff Voyaging by George RR Martin- decades before the whole Fire and Ice/Game of those thing took off, that was a fave book of mine.
Larry Niven short story, “The Soft Weapon”
Its a bunch of SciFi short stories about and trader called “Tuff”, a big fat balled guy about 2 metres tall. It begins with him being paid to take an acquisitive salvage crew out to a forgotten planet chasing stories of an ancient lost genetic battleship super-weapon that's in orbit.
They examined myths of the planet and think it's a fabled remnant from a lost war circling around the planet and occasionally bombarding it with pre-programmed plagues…
Well it's ALL true, The battleship is there! But the treasure is too good to play nice and pretty son the whole crew are fighting to the death to win it…
SPOILER
Tuff wins.
He uses the super-weapn genetic battleship in interesting and amazing was to solve the issues of all sorts of civilisations in the stars, coming up with amazing and novel solutions. It's a joy to read and it's an awesome weapon.
It can create any kind of customised life you need.
plymayer
at 8:44PM, Aug. 27, 2024
What was your ceremonial sword?
Some thing like this. I never really had one. They were used to direct units that were marching and honor guards, etc.
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plymayer
at 8:48PM, Aug. 27, 2024
Swords in fiction list:
-Luke's light sabre from the first Star Wars movie.
Excalibur
bravo1102
at 12:25AM, Aug. 28, 2024
dpat57 wrote:And after years of questions the Kzinti are now considered Star Trek Canon. The Federation-Kzin wars have been referenced and at least one appeared in ST:Lower Decks.
Larry Niven short story, “The Soft Weapon”, a bunch of kzinti (think 2-meter tall orange tabby cats) take humans and a puppeteer as prisoners while they investigate a weird handheld alien device that can take on many forms at the touch of a button, including a powerful disruptor, and can also talk (it learns their language just by listening to their conversations… should have called the story “The Smart Weapon” if you ask me). The premise was adapted (by Niven himself) for "The Slaver Weapon" episode of Star Trek: The Animated Series.
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dpat57
at 1:59AM, Aug. 29, 2024
bravo1102 wrote:I have been appalled by this for some time, lol. I just read a Trek comic yesterday and Chief O'Brien encounters Kzin aboard the Defiant. I was like, get fecken outta here ye gobshites!
And after years of questions the Kzinti are now considered Star Trek Canon. The Federation-Kzin wars have been referenced and at least one appeared in ST:Lower Decks.
bravo1102
at 5:14AM, Aug. 29, 2024
At last count there were three feline species in Star Trek. There's the leonine one from the Animated series, the housecat one from Lower Decks and the Kzin.
I'm told the one from the Animated Series is not the same as the doctor from Lower Decks, but they're alike enough for me, but they're definitely not Kzin.
Back to big swords; I love Landsknechts twi handed great sword and how they were supposed to be used. To cut the legs off of the horses of charging cavalry. In the Rutgers Hauer movie Flesh and Blood his character Martin was armed with one. Great movie that put you smack dab in the middle of the late Middle Ages/Renaissance with the array of weapons used at the time. I actually ran a D&D campaign based on that setting and of course Rutger Hauer's character in Sword of kings was named after his character in the movie.
I'm told the one from the Animated Series is not the same as the doctor from Lower Decks, but they're alike enough for me, but they're definitely not Kzin.
Back to big swords; I love Landsknechts twi handed great sword and how they were supposed to be used. To cut the legs off of the horses of charging cavalry. In the Rutgers Hauer movie Flesh and Blood his character Martin was armed with one. Great movie that put you smack dab in the middle of the late Middle Ages/Renaissance with the array of weapons used at the time. I actually ran a D&D campaign based on that setting and of course Rutger Hauer's character in Sword of kings was named after his character in the movie.
plymayer
at 5:57PM, Aug. 29, 2024
bravo1102 wrote:
At last count there were three feline species in Star Trek. There's the leonine one from the Animated series, the housecat one from Lower Decks and the Kzin.
Speaking of weapons and feline species in Trek, how come all of them appear to have four breasts? My domestic cats have six? Or is it eight? I never really looked. It's more than two.
bravo1102
at 1:10AM, Aug. 30, 2024
plymayer wrote:My guess is bipedal versus quadruped. On four legs there can be teats going down the abdomen but that isn't practical on a species standing upright. Standing upright, the young have to be carried by the mother, so carrying six infants? Four legged, the young can just climb on momma's back. Kzin being two meters tall, there's room for four, but smaller species I really don't see how to fit four breasts without impeding a female's ability to bend over. But then there's the whole coolness, fetish factor and then all bets are off.bravo1102 wrote:
At last count there were three feline species in Star Trek. There's the leonine one from the Animated series, the housecat one from Lower Decks and the Kzin.
Speaking of weapons and feline species in Trek, how come all of them appear to have four breasts? My domestic cats have six? Or is it eight? I never really looked. It's more than two.
marcorossi
at 2:01AM, Aug. 30, 2024
Also the much lower number of offsprings (it is rare for a woman to have twins, but cats have an average of 3-5 kittens, and according to Doctor Google cheetas can have even more). What's the point of having 6 boobs to breastfeed a single child? This is also related to humans having a very long infancy and thus requiring much more parental care, which in turn might be related to intelligence. So intelligent cats are likely to have less boobs. Science!
kawaiidaigakusei
at 3:25AM, Aug. 31, 2024
I always liked Cloud Strife’s original default weapon, the buster sword, in Final Fantasy VII. It is clunky, no frills like a gunblade or ultima sword, and no one in their right mind would mess with a person carrying it around town for fear of tetanus.
( ´ ▽ ` )ノ
sleeping_gorilla
at 1:41PM, Sept. 1, 2024
Fun fact. Scientists wanted to recreate the non-lethal electric rifle from the Tom Swift books. It had hooks that would fire out and attach to the target. Then an electric charge would subdue them.
It was called the Tom Swift Electric Rifle. Or the Taser.
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The Omaran Saga by Adrian Cole had a group of witch hunters that would replace an arm with a magical/mechanical talon. Their leader was a wizard from a world destroyed by the abuse of magic and his followers would kill anyone who showed signs of being a mage.
It was called the Tom Swift Electric Rifle. Or the Taser.
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The Omaran Saga by Adrian Cole had a group of witch hunters that would replace an arm with a magical/mechanical talon. Their leader was a wizard from a world destroyed by the abuse of magic and his followers would kill anyone who showed signs of being a mage.
Ozoneocean
at 8:50PM, Sept. 4, 2024
sleeping_gorilla wrote:Is that true? Hahaha!
It was called the Tom Swift Electric Rifle. Or the Taser.
“Plasma” weapons are something interesting in fiction.
No one can agree on what they are! LOL!
They do not exist in reality…
Plasma is electrically conductive gas… Gas that functions like metal does with free elections I think. It usually has to be very hot to do that, like the gas used in plasma cutting torches.
SO what form does it take as a weapon? Sometimes it's a lightning gun, sometimes a flame-thrower, sometimes a blaster that throws magnetically confined pockets of hot plasma… and that probably just scratching the surface.
What do you think it should be?
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