Avart wrote:
I'm doing home office too, Sometimes I need to go to the office but saving 2-3 hours just for the trip home-office-home every day is a plus. Just my laptop, a few documents and that's all.
You tech support, software engineer…?
Avart wrote:
I'm doing home office too, Sometimes I need to go to the office but saving 2-3 hours just for the trip home-office-home every day is a plus. Just my laptop, a few documents and that's all.
ozoneocean wrote:
Nice birdies 😁
How are you guys doing?
ozoneocean wrote:
I'm shocked by how badly America is doing with CoVid-19. Jeeeeeez… that's gone beyond a joke. We thought the Italians were basically being Kermit the Frog during the Muppit show when all the acts are doing silly things and it looks like the show won't go on… (running around screaming and waving his hands in the air) … (I might be remembering that wrongly)
But the USA is basically Beaker. All of Beaker. O_O
ozoneocean wrote:
I'm shocked by how badly America is doing with CoVid-19. Jeeeeeez… that's gone beyond a joke. We thought the Italians were basically being Kermit the Frog during the Muppit show when all the acts are doing silly things and it looks like the show won't go on… (running around screaming and waving his hands in the air) … (I might be remembering that wrongly)
But the USA is basically Beaker. All of Beaker. O_O
MegaRdaniels wrote:
Welp I'm just gonna put this here as our new American flag! Mwahahahaha
ozoneocean wrote:Then you're putting out meaningless analyses and you should stop. There certainly are instances where doing that's okay, but in a case where the outcomes are so tremendously heterogeneous, it makes no sense at all and distorts what's actually going on.
@El Cid:
I look at the USA as a whole because that's how we look at all countries.
I know the USA likes to consider itself a loose confederation of states but that's not how anyone else from the outside sees it.
ozoneoceanThe response on America's west coast was no better than that on the east coast, but the outcomes have been nowhere near as bad, and there are plenty of big population centers there. “Poor measures and resources,” whatever that means to you, is probably not the primary factor in why this is. Seasonal climate, geography, dumb luck, who knows.
But yes, it's population density that is the chief factor at the point of greatest initial infection that determines the spread- as well as measures put in place and resources.
The USA had poor measures and resources put in place for this, which is why it go so bad, but it slowly got better.
ozoneoceanThat's the wrong graph to look at. Total death and infection numbers can only go up, unless COVID-19 finds a way to start resurrecting people. Daily infections and deaths are down, and seem to be continuing on that trend, which is what has happened elsewhere. That's why there's cause for optimism.
The curve is slowing down but it's still climbing, in the USA:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
ozoneoceanAgreed, for the most part. Yes, it should be taken seriously, and there probably is no “woods,” per se. The disease will likely become endemic and be something we need to learn to live with.
No one is out of the woods yet. Optimism should be cautious because it can flare up again.
And the idea that it's only bad for immune compromised and old people is wrong. It now seems that it can cause renal failure heart, lung and neurological issues in people who recovered ok from it and it's not certain you will be immune when you recover. SO the bottom line is DO NOT catch it if you can help it.
usedbooks wrote:
(To be honest, the US suffers what it has suffered since the 1700s. States do what they want, and some manage better than others. The stupidest state legislatures are the loudest, and stupid decisions leak into neighboring states. And the general population is composed of many smart quiet people and a few loud idiots who get pandered to.)
kawaiidaigakusei wrote:usedbooks wrote:
(To be honest, the US suffers what it has suffered since the 1700s. States do what they want, and some manage better than others. The stupidest state legislatures are the loudest, and stupid decisions leak into neighboring states. And the general population is composed of many smart quiet people and a few loud idiots who get pandered to.)
And this is why usedbooks has always been one of the smart ones.
usedbooks wrote:
I'm starting to suspect one of my chicks is a rooster. :( I have two of them acting literally cocky, but only one has started showing masculine features.
The good news is they are finally big enough to live outside! So now inside my house is just me, the dog, two cats, and twenty-five rats.
ozoneocean wrote:Ozone, stop arguing with yourself. Those are YOUR arguments; not any that I've made. If you have a general gripe with a position taken by some generic group of people, then you should find one of those people and, when they make that argument, discuss it with them. There are times when it makes sense to consider a country (or even a continent, for that matter) as a single consolidated entity, and there are times when it does not. The case in which you used it, was inappropriate, and I explained why.
@El Cid
That conception of the US as a loose Federation of states IS only an internal thing. Most countries see themselves differently to how we see them externally. The USA isn't a special case here. Not in any way.
The fact that others view it as a huge mass all together is fine and correct because that's how you view China, Russia, Indonesia, Australia etc.
All places are internally complex. The fact that people think that only the USA should be viewed that way lacks perspective.
You'll notice I'm not posting a Death Map for Australia. I don't think you guys are all that analogous a comparison for a number of reasons (maybe to South Africa?). And like I mentioned before, the southern hemisphere in general might be on a different corona clock than the rest of us, so don't let your guard down just yet!