Why do most people live in a hypnotic state?

Either a surplus of Hypnotists or a surplus of misdiagnosis on your part.



In retrospect, you've probably been the recipient of many jibes concerning hypnosis, seeing as it's a field few people know anything about. Like myself for example.

So I'll go ahead and take the bait (mostly because I am curious at this point):

What on Earth do you mean most people are living in a hypnotic state?

He means- people deluded into thinking an acting in conventional ways… Kyu's idea is that most people are sheep, only doing certain things and acting in certain ways because they have been lead to believe it's normal and accepted, even when those behaviours go against their personal interests.
-Stuff like finding a partner, getting married, having kids etc. Also voting, believing what the press, church and government tell you, all that sort of thing.

I think that about sums it up, doesn't it Kyu? :)

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Personally, I don't really agree with him. I mean, conceptually he has a point and it's one that philosophers, intellectuals and artists have tried to make for a very, very long time. But the trouble is that he seems to take it far too literally.

That's what i took it to mean. While I agree that many people are sheep, I also believe it's part of human nature. I think many would argue that people who don't act in that manner are technically insane/crazy/whatever.

someone
people are sheep, only doing certain things and acting in certain ways because they have been lead to believe it's normal and accepted, even when those behaviours go against their personal interests.
-Stuff like finding a partner, getting married, having kids etc. Also voting, believing what the press, church and government tell you, all that sort of thing.

The Matrix was an exceptionally eye-opening movie for many.

I think asking these questions is a good exercise for just about everybody, and at different points in your life.

As kids there's a point when all of a sudden we realize that our parents are – just people? It happens at different ages: 8? 12? Lots of rebellion because one's universe gets redefined. And as we go along and find that things are not quite what we thought they were, and the universe is constantly re-defined, and as these things start adding up, I suggest that the big question we ask, then, is who the hell am I?

so many of these questions about the outside world serve as groundwork for discovering who we ourselves are.

as long as the navel-gazing doesn't take up too much time, imo, it's a good exercise. It's very difficult to have a fair concept of any one else if you don't have a realistic concept about your self.

Note: just a little crackpot thinking on my part and NOT directed to any individual!!

Genejoke
That's what i took it to mean. While I agree that many people are sheep, I also believe it's part of human nature. I think many would argue that people who don't act in that manner are technically insane/crazy/whatever.

Yes… I don't think it's sheep-like to act conventionally, conventional is conventional for a good reason- things work.
Humans are a heard/pack species, we're social creatures and only really excel in groups. Our groupishness is the source of the best things we've created- great works of architecture, massive cities etc as well as scientific advances that are actually the cumulative product of millennia of human culture (without thousands of years of human culture behind him Einstein would never have come up with relativity).
But it's also a source of some of our worst traits- mob violence, war, the fact that Paris Hilton ever became a celebrity…

I ramble. The point is that we're not “sheep”, we're just “human”, but some people do take the monkey-see-monkey-do thing a little too far.

ayesinback
As kids there's a point when all of a sudden we realize that our parents are – just people? It happens at different ages: 8? 12? Lots of rebellion because one's universe gets redefined.

I think with Kyu the “parents” in the equation are teachers, politicians, priests, doctors, ultra rich “elites”, that sort of thing. -But not “just people”, more like “con artists” actively trying to fool you and perpetuate the myths of conventional behaviour in order to maintain the status quo.
Lots of people take that concept too literally as well. Again, there's a valid concept in that someone in a position of advantage will seek to maintain that advantage, but they take it too far and extrapolate it too widely into active conspiracies.

I see. That is an interesting perception of reality.

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Sometimes I really hate playing games with the family. Board games….card games…. All can be summed up with one sentiment: Which one of my family members is going to be an over-competetive asshole this time?

Ally Haert
Which one of my family members is going to be an over-competetive asshole this time?

OMG – we're related!

ayesinback

Ally Haert
Which one of my family members is going to be an over-competetive asshole this time?

OMG – we're related!

are you claiming to be that person?

seventy2

ayesinback

Ally Haert
Which one of my family members is going to be an over-competetive asshole this time?

OMG – we're related!

are you claiming to be that person?

LOL! My thoughts exactly… They need to do a board game together now to see which one is which :)

Someone
Yes… I don't think it's sheep-like to act conventionally, conventional is conventional for a good reason- things work.

Spot on. but sheep is a nice short analogy.

Well it's never me! I'm very laid back about games, I enjoy playing them for the conversations they spark. It's one of the reasons I don't like playing poker – because everyone is so quiet.

Proof of why I should not be a teenage movie maker…
Part 1

Part 2

(Part 2 is all the outtakes and they are FAILISH.)

seventy2

ayesinback

Ally Haert
Which one of my family members is going to be an over-competetive asshole this time?

OMG – we're related!

are you claiming to be that person?

Ha Ha. I might be that person if we're playing hearts – I take no prisoners then.

But for any other game, I let em go at it. especially board games, usually someone rolls for me, someone moves my player, someone reads what ever cards there are. Not always. Last board game I played was called something like addictions – I paid attention to that one, but there really was no competition. pretty much everyone ended up as a skid-row bum hooked on something (interesting game).

actually, the one in my family who is The Most Competitive would swear on a stack of Bibles, totally sincere and believing it, that she's the Least competitive. it's pretty funny - so clueless.

— (tired wildebeest)

I've been in negotiations with the school district over my son' placement for 6 months. Today's meeting was suppose to be Happy Resolution Day, but it wasn't.

I have taken two weeks worth of vacation days since Jan. going to meetings with school directors and consultants, doctors, government offices, an attorney, one day driving around the State of NJ with an Educational Expert (ooo, zounds! totally pedigreed with all those nice initials after his name and published, if you please), and I'm not done. Another report, another meeting (at least one)

phooey (I'm too tired to write all the horrible curses I feel – you guys can insert)

Why is there such a big to do about your son's placement? I'm inclined to either think he's a prodigy, or he's a special needs child. But then, why the meeting with the attorney?

Hello Internet,
How have you been?
I have been fine.
Goodbye,

Kroatz

Goddamit, this is NOT my day today :(

First, I notice that the music is playing kinda weird. Comes out oneof the speakers doesn't play at all. I check and switch the cables going from the pc to the audio tower thingy and… no change. So I switch the speaker cables and the other speaker doesn't play, so the problem is somewhere between the two, right in the audio tower thing…
I switch to mono :(

SECOND, I try to transfer pics from my camera… AND IT CAN'T CONNECT TO THE PC ANYMORE!
Attempt to reinstall drivers = FAIL, DRIVERS WON'T INSTALL ANYMORE, RETURNS AN ERROR CODE AND LIKS ME TO THE KODAK SITE BUT THE GODDAMN SITE HAS NO INFO ON THAT ERROR ANYMORE!

AAAAAARGH!

The only positive thing is that I sold one comic… whoppee, I have a whole 2.19$ now :(

@Aurora: I agree. this day sucks. just found out that the Dad of one of my daughter's friends died and the wake is now - will be leaving shortly

@Kroatz: hey slim. your hat: “new” or certified pre-owned (aka “new” to you)

@Ally: autistic. he has rights, but sometimes a lawyer is an invaluable tool in reminding school boards about those rights

Damn, I hate how time zones work, I missed out on some really good discussion here on the forums last night, all because my silly body felt that it needed sleep.

Pffft, wimp.

I get that all the time.

I'm in the time zone this board is based on, and i still miss out on all the good chats….i mostly just read what happened, and think of what to say. then, it's too late, and i try to start new conversations.


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i'm sorry for your loss ayes.

I'm not on the internet like, constantly- like I was before, so I feel like I miss out on a lot of the more interesting forum discussions. Seems like no one is up at 6 am central American time. It's a weird time void, I suspect. Don't help none that the cast has changed in my absence. Although I guess I'm “new” to a lot of folks on here. ;)

Australian Eastern Standard time is pretty much the complete opposite to all time zones, for example, I'm currently commenting from the future on Thursday morning, while to the rest of the world, or at least the Western Hemisphere, its some time Wednesday. It's really annoying when I try to organise things on here, like uploading comics…

Ah well…


Watching a really, REALLY bad movie called 55 Days in Peking from the late 50's early 60's (not sure on exact date). Its supposed to be about the Boxer Rebellion in China, and basically, its really shittily acted and for some reason, all major Chinese officials are played by Americans.

It's so sad, it's funny, and it's so funny, it's sad.

The more I look into it… the more I realize what a monster the Vatican really is. That has to be the biggest mind-control operation in existence.

Look into NLP (neuro-linguistic-programming… this is the REAL MEAT AND POTATOES in the science of psychology) then compare it with the Vatican's operations.

Think I'm talking BS? Why is it then that Mexico, Philippines, etc. are still predominantly Catholic even though their countries were raped and plundered by the Spanish conquistadores (Catholic)?

Truely the work of very skillfully crafted MIND-CONTROL. Aldous Huxley was right when he talked about people learning to love their servitude. The Vatican has got this down very good…

Hyena H_ll
I'm not on the internet like, constantly- like I was before, so I feel like I miss out on a lot of the more interesting forum discussions. Seems like no one is up at 6 am central American time. It's a weird time void, I suspect. Don't help none that the cast has changed in my absence. Although I guess I'm “new” to a lot of folks on here. ;)

I'm in Central Time but I haven't seen 6am for a long time. Stupid teenage hormones, they don't like me to sleep reasonable hours.

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My dad got me an octopus plant but killed it(by not watering it) before he even gave it to me. : (
RIP, Octy. You will be missed.

I didn't read the word “Plant” and I was like: “Oh sweet, a pet octopus!”

“hurr white screen of death for you if you aren't an obediant dog who eats generic shit straight from the anus of a think-skinned weeaboo without questions”

OnlyFoolsAndVikings
I didn't read the word “Plant” and I was like: “Oh sweet, a pet octopus!”

I would like a pet octopus, but my dad has said “NOOOOOOOOOOOO” to more pets.
So I just have to have a plant. Which died. : (
Edit: Hrm, a couple leaves still look alive. Maybe I can revive it, although my gardening skills are pretty limited.

Actually, what I really want is a snake.

I have jury duty tomorrow, ugh.

Also i've had awful cramps for the past three days. I hope they go away in time for vacation.

don't think of it as Jury duty, think of it as… being selected to be a member of the prestigeous Justice Council (a branch of the Justice League designed for non-super hero citizens).

Makes it more exciting then.

Hippie Van
So I just have to have a plant. Which died. : (

You could get a Venus Fly Trap, its like an animal, only in plant form, which doesn't crap on the carpets and eats flies.


I fed my one chocolate biscuits once, toddler me obviously thought its diet of flies was boring and that it needed dessert of some kind. Ended up dying, dying in chocolate.