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What is your favourite weapon in fiction?
ozoneocean at 9:37PM, April 14, 2019
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Tantz asked this of us after the Quackcast recording on Saturday. It's fun question :)

I like a whole bunch but to narrow it down a bit:

Giant swords like the thing Cloud Strife from FF7 uses, also big Great-Swords and No-dachis. I love them in fiction. They're so damn cool! ^_^

For guns it's two things: the M60 light machine gun and any large calibre anti-tank rifle.
The M60 was the star of 1980s action movies, from Commando, to Rambo 2, to the A-TEAM, people would walk around firing infinite bullets from chains draped around their shoulders.
Now I love the big old anti-tank rifles like the Lahti L39 or the Boyes. They're impractical, they're gigantic, heavy, and cartoonishly proportioned. I love how they dwarf their operators.
You see a lot of these in anime.

Talking about fiction here, rather than reality.
 
Genejoke at 11:59PM, April 14, 2019
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Hmmm, When I was younger I was really into absurd weapons, now I'm old and they joy of such things is largely lost to me.

That said I still have a little to add.

The Bazookoids from red dwarf. I loved their oversized under hand firing absurdity.

I was also partial to the pulse rifles in aliens and the heavy weapon cannon thing used by Frost? with the support attached at the hip.

Similarly the Predators shoulder cannon, even though it's kinda pathetic if you think too hard about it.
usedbooks at 4:39PM, April 15, 2019
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For protagonists, I like unconventional non-lethal things. Usually gadgets that can be used as defensive weapons. Hidden tranquilizer darts and smoke screens. A whip or a lasso. High frequency debilitating sound weapons. Things in the realm of espionage, even edging on super-science (but not too outrageous).

I also like when a protagonist uses whatever is around in a fight, Jackie Chan style. Ladders, office equipment, whatever. I love a resourceful hero.

As for antagonists' weapons, I find the more conventional and real weapons are the most engaging and intimidating. A concealed hand gun can be a particularly effective threat. When it goes into doomsday weapons, magic, or artillery scale, it becomes less personal, and I find myself detached rather than invested.
usedbooks at 4:40PM, April 15, 2019
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Oh, and the best absurd weapon was the “light grenade” from Mom and Dad Save the World.
ozoneocean at 6:17PM, April 15, 2019
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usedbooks wrote:
Oh, and the best absurd weapon was the “light grenade” from Mom and Dad Save the World.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCeD2gF9jUo
HAHA!
That was pretty good :D
 
Genejoke at 9:11PM, April 15, 2019
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Oh, I forgot the most quotable fictional weapon there is….

“Pass me the the Holy hand grenade!”
bravo1102 at 6:31AM, April 16, 2019
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ozoneocean wrote:
usedbooks wrote:
Oh, and the best absurd weapon was the “light grenade” from Mom and Dad Save the World.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCeD2gF9jUo
HAHA!
That was pretty good :D
That scene was the one that got me to watch the movie. 😂🤣

Read the Darwin Awards and you'll find things like that have actually happened.


I have actually handled and fired a “pig” as we called it, the M60 machine gun. The M60E2 with the fore grip was balanced so it could be fired one hand as in the movies. It's a real thing. The regular one with the longer barrel and bipod needed two hands but you got the biggest guy to carry it and often he could handle it from the waist for suppressive fire.

And anti tank rifles were wonderful. The Russians used them so much it drove the Germans to put side skirts all their tanks. And put them on a pedestal mount and you can reach out and touch someone at long range like the LRDG did. Remember the FIfty caliber machine gun started out with the idea of using an anti tank rifle round in a machine gun.

My favorites are submachine guns especially the Thompson family. Even have a 1/1 scale non-firing model of one. I snuck an MP40 into a fantasy comic. I like it especially when it's used with the stock and from the shoulder in short controlled bursts. Seeing a lot of Russian war movies lately I've also become a fan of the PPSH with it's stock, drum magazine and muzzle flash that comes out the side slits.

😆 Had a chance to use that one in two comics. Assault rifles are so passe anymore especially when some doofus in a movie uses it like a submachine gun. 🙄
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ozoneocean at 9:18PM, April 16, 2019
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The Russian antitank guns are pretty cool, AND their sub machine guns. I have a PPSH in Pinky TA :D
https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Pinky_TA/4935484/
With their square barrel shroud and its vertical cooling holes it looks weirdly futuristic.

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I like impractical guns in fiction… So man portable rotary machine guns used to be a fave, till they became massively overused and a complete joke.
Also small one handed sub machine guns- which unlike man portable rotary machine guns were actually used (you absolutely can not carry a minigun and fire it in any useful way). a small pistol sub gun is something I'll have in my comic eventually.

I love well done mecha in fiction.
 
bravo1102 at 3:02AM, April 17, 2019
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In fiction I love it when s weapon doesn't work because the character uses it wrong.

The old holding a pistol sideways and expecting to hit anything, or a boat full of Mac-10 armed drug smugglers shooting all over and not hitting anything and a handful of Civil War reenactors picking them off because they're AIMING.

Or in Death P*rn when the guy finally gets some intestinal fortitude and tries to.shoot an M16 – and nothing happens because there's no round in the chamber. That's what the old “lock and load” meant in Vietnam movies. You had to pull the bolt to the rear and let it go forward to chamber a round for the weapon to fire.

Reinforces the dumb movie versus real life use of weapons. 😉😋
Banes at 7:39PM, April 17, 2019
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I liked a three-bladed sword in an old movie called The Sword and the Sorcerer. Seemed so awesome when I was a kid! Kind of still does actually…

I’m not really a weapons enthusiast - but I dig Indiana’s whip and Daredevil’s baton. I agree on mostly enjoying the non-bloody or non-lethal type weapons.
bravo1102 at 4:00AM, April 18, 2019
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Banes wrote:
I liked a three-bladed sword in an old movie called The Sword and the Sorcerer. Seemed so awesome when I was a kid! Kind of still does actually…

I’m not really a weapons enthusiast - but I dig Indiana’s whip and Daredevil’s baton. I agree on mostly enjoying the non-bloody or non-lethal type weapons.
I like them too like the eye poke bayonet from Hot Shots part Deux or bonk on the head RPG. 🤣🤣
mishi_hime at 8:27AM, April 23, 2019
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Behold! The nerdiest of weapons. The Bat'leth



If you have to kill your enemies, do it with something shiny and impractical.

Speaking of impractical, I am the proud owner of this bat knife. Just had to have it.



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ozoneocean at 9:31PM, April 23, 2019
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Haha cool :D

I own a lot of antique sabres, nut no fantasy weapons…
Actually I have a pistol crossbow. It's 100% fake. And also a fake halberd pole axe :)

The fantasy sword I'd like one day is Conan's father's sword from Conan the Barbarian

A real Japanese sword I'd like one day is a nagamaki. They're big katanas with extra long handles. Very wearied looking. I love all that silk wrapping, it's very pretty!
I have a katana with a white handle… I hate black ones. I like them to be either colourful or white.
 
usedbooks at 6:59AM, April 24, 2019
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I have this. Lol.

bravo1102 at 7:24AM, April 24, 2019
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Outside of my 1/1 scale models of a M1928 Thompson submachine gun and M16A1 rifle everything I have is in miniature.

And I'm still short of shelf space. I mean when you just have to have all three versions of the classic Star Trek Enterprise and those 12 Spitfires and seven Me-109 and four Tiger I. Lots of model builders get very specific which version of anything we build. So many variants so little shelf space.

Just to blow your mind here is a list of every Sherman tank model I have. I barely touch on how many actual variants there were.
M4 75mm VVSS early production
M4 75mm VVSS early remanufactured
M4 75mm VVSS mid remanufactured
M4 composite hull 75mm VVSS
M4 105mm HVSS
(Two different suspension types, three hull and turret configurations)
M4A1 75mm ( cast rounded hull) early
M4A1 75mm mid
M4A1 75mm early remanufactured
M4A1 76mm ( two different turret types)
M4A1 76mm HVSS
And so on with two M4A2, eight M4A3, two M4A4, Israeli M50 and two M51 “super Sherman ”(1967 and 1973 configuration)

Yeah its beyond crazy.
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williamson56232 at 8:20AM, Aug. 11, 2019
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My favorite fictional weapon is a shard blade from the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson. More specifically, I enjoy Syl-blade. It's intriguing that Syl can change to be whatever tool Kaladin needs at the moment, and yet Syl still holds all the cutting power of traditional shardblades. A shard blade requires immense respect, especially from the user, as a mistake could result in the immediate loss of a limb or life.

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Jeremy Ray at 5:55PM, Aug. 20, 2019
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Yo! We heard you liked bat symbols, so we put a bat symbol on your bat symbol.

I especially love how they're different style symbols . . .

Not saying it isn't cool though, not at all!
rickrudge at 5:31PM, Nov. 27, 2019
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In my Drako the Barbarian series, the Drako character uses a Japanese Katana (Samurai) sword, but many of the villains carry a curly middle eastern style dagger.

I also love the Gurkha Kukri blade which I’ve read was probably invented long after the Drako character, but it’s such a kick-ass looking weapon, I can’t help myself.

As far as more modern weapons, the weapon of choice for my Tag Forester detective character is the 1911 -45 caliber automatic military pistol. There’s a few 9mm’s running around too. :-)

— Rick Rudge
ozoneocean at 8:18PM, Nov. 27, 2019
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rickrudge wrote:
I also love the Gurkha Kukri blade which I’ve read was probably invented long after the Drako character, but it’s such a kick-ass looking weapon, I can’t help myself.

As far as more modern weapons, the weapon of choice for my Tag Forester detective character is the 1911 -45 caliber automatic military pistol. There’s a few 9mm’s running around too. :-)

— Rick Rudge
I really like the Browning 1911 45. It's the best looking out of all the squarish automatics.

re: Kukiris: that style of blade is ancient. It was used in ancient Greece and called a Kopis. In Spain they called it a falcatta.
They're pretty awesome, I recommend looking them up for your comic.
 
fallopiancrusader at 3:08PM, Dec. 2, 2019
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All of the space rifles in “Barbarella”




Oh, and of course the quadruple-barreled bazooka in “Hard ticket to Hawaii”



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ozoneocean at 3:43AM, Dec. 3, 2019
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Haha, that looks like Jane Fonda in the Hawaii film too! I had to look it up… It's 1987 so the cover style was pretty retro.

I looked up the launcher too:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Hard_Ticket_to_Hawaii#Fake_Rocket_Launcher

It's fake, a good fictional weapon! But reminded me of the quad launcher from Commando. Apparently that one was a mock-up of a real weapon that was designed to be used for setting fires. It's the modern version of a flamethrower.
 
bravo1102 at 4:35AM, Dec. 3, 2019
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M202 flash. Actually handled one in the Army. In 1990 already looked on as an ancient outdated piece of Vietnam era equipment. Still in the inventory though. The M202 at one point was mounted on helicopters in Vietnam for the first Huey gunships.

White phosphorus grenade is a lot easier to carry for starting fires.

The bundled together rocket launcher tubes are based on aircraft carried multiple missile tubes. There were three to four bazooka tubes tied together that was mounted under fighter-bombers from WW2 to Vietnam.

Fictional weapons often have historical inspirations and vice versa.

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